Did our new football players make a good choice?
The title reads like I think some of these guys should have committed to play somewhere else. That is not the case. Actually, I believe these are the smart ones. I am guilty at times of thinking too deeply about things, and a rainy morning in eastern NC increases the likelihood of my thoughtful submersion.
We signed 18 young men to one year contracts to play football for Georgia Tech. In exchange we agreed to pay the full cost of one year of their post-secondary education. Granted, for most of these guys, we will renew this agreement for each of the next four years. They will get a great degree if they want to apply themselves in class. If they are lucky, work hard, and avoid serious injury, one or two may get a chance to play professionally after they leave Ga Tech.
I think it is still true today, as it was when I was a high school senior, that young athletes who were stars on their high school teams dream lofty dreams. I slipped under covers at night and had visions of myself in the NBA. That seems silly today, knowing how ill-equipped I was physically and just how little actual talent I possessed. Was I more wild-eyed than a 6-3, 220 pound high school lineman thinking he will someday be an NFL defensive end? That is about the same size as an NBA point guard.
Still, there are men who dream the dream so clearly, and so deeply, that they are willing to pay whatever price it takes. What few of them realize is the piper continues to collect far beyond anything they can envision. I hope all our newly acquired stars read this story on SI.com about the ongoing physical toll football takes on their minds and bodies.
I have fingers that do not bend as they should. My knees never suffered a serious injury, but cause severe pain going down stairs. I gave up running a few years ago. It was too painful. These ailments are possibly the result of aging, but my three years of high school basketball and two in college did not help. It's not the games. It's hours upon hours of pounding everyday in practice. I shutter to think about the pain ex-football players must feel twenty years after they quit playing. I only played basketball, which has never had anything close to football's every play physical punishment.
If you knew you would need physical therapy at age 50 to take part in normal, everyday activities, would you aim for an NFL career? I hope all eighteen of these kids get to play a lot at Tech. I also hope they get their degree and find careers as engineers or college professors or project managers or politicians. Or whatever their fallback dreams are. I know their real dreams are something far more glamorous. I had them, too.
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Hell yes.
I’m pleased with the current recruiting class. I think we filled in some areas of major need (d line & special teams (punter)). At the same time, I think all of these young men will be able to completely round out the term “student athlete” while working towards a degree at one of the finest institutions for higher education in the entire country.
Wasn't what it could have been
But I, too, am happy. We did address some needs, and I am satisfied with it.
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I agree
in that I think we should have had one more OL or DL come our way. We were inadvertently F’d by F$U when they stole a Bama recruit, making room for Tomlinson. No reason we should have lost Adams though…would have really helped the OL.
Overall it sounds like we got young men who all came to Tech because this is where they wanted to be.
On a side note…did anyone see that Kallon is now 6’6" 275 lbs? Beastly.
FSU meant that Bama could only oversign a little bit and not a lot . . .
but there still is no room for Tomlinson unless, as Coach Johnson says, “It depends on how you define attrition.”
by Atlanta's original team on Feb 2, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
GT recruiting is getting concerning
I am becoming increasingly concerned that CPJ cannot get the job done on the recruiting front. I realize that rankings are suspect things, but the last 5 ACC rankings at rivals have us in the bottom half to bottom third. (9,8,8,8,10) That is a disturbing trend for any idea of future championships. CPJ is a great coach and the staff will bring many kids up to higher levels, but in tight games you most often need a few great players to make big plays. CPJ has brought in many good players, but without some more great ones, we are destined to see seasons like last one where we do well against similar or lesser talent, but the better talented teams continue to outperform the Jackets, no matter how well our team is coached. I realize it is an uphill climb with our high standards and limited choice of majors, but if CPJ really wants to win championships while at GT, recruiting elite level talent is what needs to improve the most.
Using the wrong metric
Try ranking us by average star ranking, and see if we’re not in the top half of the ACC.
I met her on the campus, sir, cheering the Brave and Bold.
average stars
I did that and the kids CPJ is bringing in are good (lots of solid 3’s in the general rankings), but you stil don’t see many of the elite athletes in the classes signed by CPJ (the Dwyer’s, Morgans, Johnson’s etc). I hope I am wrong, but I find the trend to be disturbing.
Not disturbed.
I find that CPJ is slowly ratcheting up his recruiting. And if he begins winning more it will aid recruiting. I mean, what are Francis Kallon, Justin Thomas, and Adam Gotsis if not players with elite potential? We definitely were “punching above our weight” to land Kallon. And last year it was Vad Lee. Ok, so we whiffed on Tomlinson, but it’s not like he left us for Wofford. We were in that race with Bama and georgie. In my opinion, we didn’t recruit this well after the season when we beat georgie nor when we had just won the ACC (classes of ’09 and ’10 followed those two seasons…are they even as good as this class is?)
I’m curious which elite talent you were thinking Tech could realistically reel in after losing to georgie for the 3rd straight time, losing a bowl for the 7th straight time, losing to VT and Miami for a second straight time and only going 8-5. Is there some other highly academic medium sized university that is pulling in a five star player or two in every class after a season like that?
I met her on the campus, sir, cheering the Brave and Bold.
Or look at it this way . . .
In my opinion Georgia had at least the third best recruiting class in the nation but they will not be ranked nearly that high because teams like Alabama sign almost twice as many players most years. The over signing by some schools makes their classes look much better than they are. You can only play 11. Match up the stars of who is actually on the filed.
I haven’t checked this out so I may be going out on a limb but my guess is that Georgia had as many if not more “stars” on the field than LSU when they played each other.
by Atlanta's original team on Feb 2, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe.
The thing about oversigning is that it lets you reduce the risk of busts. In very rough historical averages, one is every 12 5-star players is an All-American, as is one in every 50 4-stars. The oversigning schools sign large numbers of elite talent, and are thus better insulated against busts and injuries. UGA’s starting 22 may have been as good as LSU’s starting 22 (though I don’t think so), but LSU’s 2-deep is much better. That kind of deep talent shows up on special teams and late in games, which is exactly where LSU whooped UGA.
Some kids just don’t develop into great college players. The more solid prospects you sign, the less you depend on any one kid to be great. Also, the deeper your talent goes, making it easier to wear teams down.
by first and thom on Feb 2, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
Very true...
I would even argue this is more so important along the trenches and in the Front 7. If your DL and LBs aren’t deep…they are usually in for a long 2nd half.
"If you're looking around...then we're looking around" - Coach Paul Johnson
Hard to argue with what you are saying, so I am not but . . .
I am making a slightly different point. I believe it was CMR who pointed out that their recruiting class was once again one of the best in the country but that because other teams signed a higher number of players that skewed the way the “experts” looked at it. As for LSU versus Georgia I was not saying Georgia had better talent on the field. I was suggesting that if you were to line up recruiting classes over the last few years I doubt LSU had more “stars” on the field. Georgia’s average rank in the nation for recruiting over the last five years is 6th in the nation. LSU’s is 8th. Apparently Georgia gets more “stars” even without over signing.
Obviously, how that pans out on the field is one of life’s mysteries however. Otherwise, why doesn’t Ohio State, Miami or Florida State have a national championship in the last five years?
by Atlanta's original team on Feb 2, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
Fantastic read
Thanks for this. Very interesting stuff to think about.
Unfortunately for them, it requires a lot of VERY forward thinking, which studies have shown teenagers are not the best at.
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See Will Adams
At the end of the AJC article about what happened with recruiting “I think I’ll go get something to eat now”.
To be fair,
I often think about eating several times a day.
Go Jackets, go America.
THWG.
by JohnHeisman on Feb 2, 2012 9:47 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Takes serious nerve to admit to that around these parts, boy.
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What is this? An AA Meeting?
Let’s stop with the confessions or I may embarrass myself even more.
by Atlanta's original team on Feb 2, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
My name is DHIWAG
And I’m a food-a-houlic and CFB Fan.
“Hello DHIWAG, have a Twinkie”.
Senative n. the destruction of one's political career by meme: [fr: middle Intrazweb Eynglush (2009-2020) note: post ASCII], see entry under "Craig James allegedly killed 5 hookers while enrolled at SMU".
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Feb 2, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
My family has some case studies
My father-in-law played for Tech, and so did his brother-in-law. One was a defensive lineman and another was a DB. Both played in the ’70’s and are at or just beyond midlife now. Only one of these two gentlemen has physical issues stemming from his football career. Also in the family is an elderly gentleman from the Bobby Dodd National Championship team. He is getting very advanced in age, but he seems to have none of the physical repercussions one sees with playing modern college football.
This would’ve led me to believe the modern game is more of a physical grind, but then I spent some significant time with some D-linemen from the 1990 team. These guys are nearing 40 now, and most of them are actually in great health. I was surprised to see one of them in particular looking lean and limber with great athleticism compared to his playing days.
So my new theory is that some guys’ bodies are just not predisposed to the rigors of gridiron warfare. Their weak points will be worn down and exposed over time. Other men have bodies that seem to flourish under the punishment and could still handle it at 40 if not 50. It is not clear to me if one can see these differences in high school players. If it were possible to screen for them and save some guys the use of their knees, ankles, spines, etc, I would be in favor of that, and so would my father-in-law.
I met her on the campus, sir, cheering the Brave and Bold.
I am happy for the good fortunes of your family.
That said, the data are piling up regarding the long term health issues associated with football. They are simply too compelling to ignore.
"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Seneca
"We have to distrust each other. It is our only defense against betrayal." - Tennessee Williams
Well, what I find interesting in it
is that the one guy in that group that was responsible for making tackles is completely physically torn up. He stopped playing after repeated concussions. The linemen, though, are all doing great. Now there are similarities, I suppose, between them. They’re all really tall white dudes from the South who did not play past college, to name just a few.
Now for the big caveat: Tech taught me not to use anectdotal evidence in forming analytical conclusions. Opinion is free to be formed on it, but once you mention data, the “well, I know a guy” argument is out the window. I’ve heard it’s usually less than 0.2% representative of the data (if you’re talking about consumer products or activities.)
But I still wonder if the demands of playing the game have changed even since 1990, or if some people have a greater physical predisposition to playing contact sports than others do. Despite the existence of data those are valid questions which I believe should be studied and are open for discussion.
I met her on the campus, sir, cheering the Brave and Bold.
A lot has to do with how you play the game.
Some athletes are more careful with their bodies than others. That was certainly part of the reason I was not a better player.
I agree with you completely about using anecdotal observations to form conclusions.
"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Seneca
"We have to distrust each other. It is our only defense against betrayal." - Tennessee Williams
When you go PRO
Everybody is bigger, faster, meaner, and richer than than Everybody in CFB.
Luckily we can replace most joints (especially knees), but not nervous systems pummeled by hits and concussed repeatedly will always be problematic.
How Jeff Van Note survived 4 years getting beat on at Kentucky, and 18 years getting beat on inAtlanta, and now looks like a college professor (with 2 titanium knees).
Senative n. the destruction of one's political career by meme: [fr: middle Intrazweb Eynglush (2009-2020) note: post ASCII], see entry under "Craig James allegedly killed 5 hookers while enrolled at SMU".
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Feb 2, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
What a coincidence. This was just posted on the ajc website:
http://www.ajc.com/sports/they-use-you-up-1327740.html
"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Seneca
"We have to distrust each other. It is our only defense against betrayal." - Tennessee Williams
Looking at NFL veterans will, for the most part, make you glad you did not play football
Those who still look great, and there are some, either had good genes or they took care of themselves or both. Sometimes I am struck by how many former running backs are overweight, have diabetes or ailing body parts. My guess is that in some of these cases they were used to running a higher matabolism in their playing days and therefore used to eating lots of food and plenty of carbs, and now that they have slowed down they do not engage in regular enough exercise nor do they eat enough fruits and vegetables. Some of these former running backs balloon up to probably 30 or 40 pounds the weight considered healthy for their height and age. Needless to say, this exacerbates any knee or leg issues.
by Atlanta's original team on Feb 2, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Its so refreshing to hear...
guys like Justin Thomas, a 4-star football recruit from the center of arguably the most football-crazed state in the land, recognizing 2 very mature things…
1) He may not go to the NFL, so he wants to be ready with a degree and job opportunities just in case not
2) He knows there will be competition at his position, but was happy to be given the opportunity to play QB
Something clicked when I watched CPJ’s presser after NSD yesterday. For the most part, these guys “wanted” to be here. In fact, he mentioned how Adam Gotsis and his family “thanked” him for the opportunity to play and attend school at GT. Do you think Josh Harvey-Clemons thanked CMR for his opportunity?
"If you're looking around...then we're looking around" - Coach Paul Johnson
That is why I want Paul Johnson here for a long time he recruits people who want to be here and will make the school proud
He recruits good people and good players
Dude.
Go watch Josh Harvey-Clemons talk about UGA. The dude is as grateful as the day is long. In fact, he was so committed to going to UGA that he resisted family pressure to go elsewhere. He said “I had to make them see what I saw, and then it was done.”
Gotsis is a quality kid with loads of potential. Enjoy that, but don’t slander another good kid.
by first and thom on Feb 2, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
If JHC honestly felt that way...
he wouldn’t have held 4 schools hostage (including UGA) on NSD to do his little hat show. The praise CPJ heaped on Gotsis was also because of his parents. I doubt Granpa Woodrow looked at it as an opportunity to be thankful for and more of an entitlement.
I will say this…having read some of JHC’s story, he is a good kid who’s been given lots of responsibility and I’m happy CMR is flexible and personable enough to follow a kid to the local jail while he’s bonding out a client. Recruiting and hype, unfortunately, is what turns people into perceived primadonnas.
"If you're looking around...then we're looking around" - Coach Paul Johnson
Holding the schools hostage?
“I’m committing on signing day” is not an uncommon thing to hear. If a school can’t stand the risk of the player signing elsewhere or needs to fill the spot, it can pull the offer and find a kid who will commit earlier. Nobody is a hostage. We ain’t Alabama, where we are cramming every possibly player into the roster (and then some).
Getting JHC in our class was gravy – we wanted his skills but have enough guys at that position to be okay. We signed a small class and had room for all of our flyers to sign (only two did). The downside is small, and the upside could be quite big, if JHC can translate his game into college.
And if you want to argue that Gotsis’s parents are less of publicity hogs than Woodrow Clemons, then I don’t think there’s a soul in the world to disagree. I’ll defend Josh, but South Georgia can keep gramps.
by first and thom on Feb 2, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
I’m just not a hat guy. Especially when they touch a GT hat and pick up a Bama hat instead. I wouldn’t have liked it even if Dalvin Tomlinson put on a GT hat. JHC didn’t wake up Wednesday morning still undecided between UM, UF, FSU, and UGA. He probably knew where he wanted on his way back from his Miami OV. Not trying to single him out, but guys typically know earlier than they lead on and milk the damn thing as much as they can.
I apologize, I know he’s a good kid with a whacked out guardian. I should have used a more relevant example like Seantrel Henderson in 2011 or something similar.
"If you're looking around...then we're looking around" - Coach Paul Johnson
Usually, the kid has called up coaches beforehand.
The Vandy commit, Dawson, that switched to UGA, called both Grantham and Franklin (at Vandy) on Tuesday. The whole hat thing was only for the cameras. That’s not always true, but I think it’s true more times than not.
by first and thom on Feb 2, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
The drama trivializes getting a college education
Coach Johnson mentioned some of the drama ends up making kids who do stupid things into celebrities while schools that were dealing in good faith are put in a bind. He specifically mentioned something I was not aware of which was (I think 4 commits) to Cal who announced on signing day that they were going somewhere else. As I have said before, if that was premeditated then these are going to be scary people to have leading our society one day. That is pretty close to the kind of thing Richard Nixon did at that age.
by Atlanta's original team on Feb 2, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
It could be worse
We could go after recruits that burn us for not having Chick Fil A on campus (which luckily we do :)
oh the impressionable minds of 17 and 18 year olds...
Better to have died a small boy than to drop this football - John Heisman FromTheRumbleSeat
by Winfield Featherston on Feb 2, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
just saw this

Better to have died a small boy than to drop this football - John Heisman FromTheRumbleSeat
by Winfield Featherston on Feb 2, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Can't decide what's funnier
Chizik waving for the recruit to ‘come and get it’, or Yabo Dabo Doo in the back all like

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Story of another Alabama Grayshirt
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/02/alabama_commitment_darius_phil_1.html
Does anyone know the final numbers in their recruiting class? Was it 26 / 27? That means ~2 kids will have to defer enrollment or forced off the team, right?
I really don't understand...
why people would play for someone so underhanded. It baffles me
Shows the non-forward thinking mindset
of younger people. If you plan on having your college education paid for, and then it’s yanked out from under you, better have a backup plan…I’m sure Saban thinks about that when he cashes the check Bama gives him….
What this guy said.
The Church of Paul Johnson - There's not much to it outside of whooping ass and giving haters the finger. To HELL With georgie!
I think a more interesting question is this...
If your typical Alabama recruit were to not be a gifted athletic football player…would they have planned on attending college?
Given the indifference that much of the SEC fan base has towards the quality of their schools’ academic reputation…do you think there’s any reciprocal desire to educate a kid at these schools of football doesn’t work out?
"If you're looking around...then we're looking around" - Coach Paul Johnson
by TBuzz on Feb 2, 2012 1:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not to sound like a whistle blower or an inferior Techie, but...
do you think there’s any reciprocal desire to educate a kid at these schools of football doesn’t work out?
I know there is not. Most football players at Alabama (and if it’s true at Bama, it is true at LSU, Georgie, Tennessee, etc.) are on the academic equivalent of life support. It is well hidden, but some of them come to college with such low levels of academic ability that they have to be re-taught basic math and reading comprehension. Their hands are held on every assignment so that, while homework is not quite “done for them,” it is completed with constant help from “tutors” who are really just students interning with the Athletic Department who tell the players how to answer all the questions to complete assignments. A ton of the team couldn’t pass high school again on their own if they had to. They do tend to let the QB be a real student, though, at Bama. He’s usually a white Business major who’s a decent student all on his own. He is protected by meatheads throwing the ball to meatheads or handing off to meatheads.
I am not crazy. I was told all of this by a Bama athlete who had to study on their own while FB players got all the academic advising attention. It is a family member of mine who lived in proximity to this day in and day out. It is the same at every SEC school except Vanderbilt.
I met her on the campus, sir, cheering the Brave and Bold.
Also
This is reportedly the same at some of our ACC institutions such as FSU, Clemson, Miami, UNC and NC State. Georgia Tech, I am told, gives lots of academic help to its players, but they keep the numbers of truly air-headed ones down below 10. Demaryus Thomas, for example? Reportedly not on track to graduate, and never would’ve been. Stephen Hill? The same.
Of course, GT also has its Roddy Jones, Sean Bedford, Albert Rocker, Anthony Egbuniwe and Kevin Cone types. And there are not many schools that have football players who get top-ranking MBA’s and still get a look from the NFL or land six figure positions with Microsoft out of a college football program. And our guys are all majoring in the #16 public business program in the country as their “jock major.” So, while we have some guys who have to be walked through assignments to stay eligible there are also some exceptionally bright dudes on our team that you won’t find at places where football is literally all that matters.
I met her on the campus, sir, cheering the Brave and Bold.
This.
This so hard.
You could probably count on one hand the schools with athletes brokering NFL offers and 6-figure fortune 500 offers.
Go Jackets, go America.
THWG.
by JohnHeisman on Feb 2, 2012 2:07 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Let's not get too puffed up>
A couple years ago FSU had an All-ACC defensive back win a Rhodes Scholarship. There are good kids everywhere.
"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Seneca
"We have to distrust each other. It is our only defense against betrayal." - Tennessee Williams
Why we can get all puffed up:
We experience/produce the special ones at a higher rate than FSU and other big “football factories” like them ever dreamed of. In the time since that kid at FSU we’ve probably had three or four at Tech. Now, of course, Tech students aren’t usually interested in the Rhodes Scholar programs (and Tech has historically not produced as many Rhodes Scholars as our more liberal arts-oriented neighbors), but MBA’s and six figure jobs are about on par in my mind. Simply put, we have more to be proud of off the gridiron than most teams do. So we’ll go ahead and be proud of that.
I met her on the campus, sir, cheering the Brave and Bold.
I remember once seeing a resume online from a uga player.
Can’t remember who, think he played TE and ended up in the NFL, wasn’t Orson Charles or Randy McMichael.
Either way, the resume was horrendous, an absolute joke. I had better grammar/writing skills in about 3rd grade. The accomplishments listed were shocking, don’t remember what but basically my jaw was hanging open at what they considered accomplishments. Just unbelievable. Almost entirely illiterate, attending a school with some of the better students from the state.
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by Winfield Featherston on Feb 2, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Accurate
The Church of Paul Johnson - There's not much to it outside of whooping ass and giving haters the finger. To HELL With georgie!
That. Is. Disturbing.
I can’t be embarrassed enough for that poor young man and his Cro Magnon writing abilities.
I met her on the campus, sir, cheering the Brave and Bold.
Recruiting thoughts
A few thoughts from yesterday’s haul (for the record, I am a fan of CPJ ‘no waffle-ing’ protocol.)
1) Happy with the focus on D, however did we need to have more O-lineman coming in?
2) Stanford and Vandy had excellent invoking classes. Do we need multiple sucessful seasons (uga and bowl victories) to bring in higher rated players? Does that really matter??
3) I do like how CPJ conventional wisdom is to bring in rounded athletes that can fit into multiple slots as needed.
4). I’m ready for a new pitcher of Kool-aid
by twojackets on Feb 2, 2012 2:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Stupid autospell
- thought should be incoming- not invoking. DERP
by twojackets on Feb 2, 2012 2:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
did someone say kool aide?

Winning brings attention from all categories.
Better to have died a small boy than to drop this football - John Heisman FromTheRumbleSeat
by Winfield Featherston on Feb 2, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Excuse me.
My wall. You’re gonna fix that, right?
I met her on the campus, sir, cheering the Brave and Bold.
OH YEAH INDEED
bring on Spring Practice!
by twojackets on Feb 2, 2012 2:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
spring game
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by Winfield Featherston on Feb 2, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
2nd team would be my guess
Unless it is abundantly clear that Tevin is the lesser QB, I don’t think he’ll be kicked out of the starting role until about midway through the season. I think it’ll take that long for Vad, Synjyn, or whoever the next guy is to sufficiently demonstrate that 1) he is the better ball carrier/handler than Tevin and 2) he can run the offense (i.e. make the right reads) better than Tevin.
One thing to consider is that the talk of Vad being the new starting QB basically assumes that Tevin is so poor of a QB that he can be beaten out by players that are two and three years younger than he is. I think if Tevin was really that bad, he would have already lost the job. Like CPJ said, what is there to say that Tevin has reached his ceiling? His ceiling may be lower than some other guy’s, but that doesn’t mean the other guys have already surpassed Tevin.
by Dive Keep and Pitch on Feb 2, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
I am a supporter of Tevin...
that being said Vad Lee is just a higher caliber of athlete on a different level than Tevin. Even watching his high school tapes you just get the sense this guy is a play maker and playmakers have a habit of finding their way on the field. Tevin is a great game manager and decision maker, but he is not a very good quarterback in the physical sense. Tevin has done a great job and is a yellow jacket in spirit through and through, but Vad is the future as of now.
In spring practice, he'll start out heading up the second team most likely
By the end of it, coaches expect him to be heading up the first team.
Source: Who else? Kelly Quinlan, JacketsOnline.com.
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I think they might want to sit Tevin for Spring...
the way they sat Josh Nesbitt in the 2010 Spring. One, we know what Tevin can do, let’s groom the backup and give Vad, Synjyn, and Dennis Andrews more meaningful snaps. Two, if you open up the competition in the Fall and have a better idea of the 2-deep and if you’re gonna move someone to a different spot and who to redshirt.
Of course, there’s a three…Justin Thomas takes every play to the house :)
"If you're looking around...then we're looking around" - Coach Paul Johnson
Nesbitt also was recovering from surgery...
so he was rested not only to groom other qbs, but to heal properly
Here is my fantasy
Tech gets the ball for the first time against VPI. Lee trots out onto the filed. He lines up in shotgun. He throws a dizzying number of fades, crossing patterns, delays out of the backfield and one roll out pass play where he tucks it and runs for 35 yards and then ducks out of bounds. In less than two minutes Tech scores the first touchdown.
VPI is stunned, stumbles on their next offensive series and Tech gets the ball again. Tevin trots out and runs straight option football at a speed we have not yet seen before. VPI, even though they had all spring to get ready for this, is still in shock from what Vad Lee just did to them. Before they can adjust several huge plays have put Tech in the endzone again.
They never recover and Tech wins the game by 24 points.
by Atlanta's original team on Feb 2, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
I think we would have a definite advantage with Lee in during the VT game...
no college video to scout. VT is also losing 4 OL and their starting running back….and their offense sucked this year. If our defense is even marginally better I like our chances to win this one. Nothing like speculating in January about a game in September :D
Here's mine...
QB – Tevin
A-Backs – Orwin Smith, Justin Thomas
WR – Vad Lee, Jeff Greene/Darren Waller
Lots of motion…You don’t know who’s playing QB BOOOOOOYYYYYYYY!
"If you're looking around...then we're looking around" - Coach Paul Johnson
Yes
And just to throw them off again. We could put Tevin in but line up in shotgun…but then run the option. Or we could put Vad in under center in the felxbone but run the option pass and A-back passes.
I met her on the campus, sir, cheering the Brave and Bold.
What do we call the "Wildcat"
@ BDS@HGF?
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by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Feb 2, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Schrodinger's Cat
Wes Durham: Alright, offense taking the field. Lining up in the Schrodinger’s Cat formation. The tackle box hides Vad Lee and his running backs. The snap will go to someone, but if the defense wants to know where the ball is they sacrifice tackling the player carrying it, because they can’t judge how fast he’s running with it. Let’s see what happens.
Ok, the snap goes to Orwin Smith, he’s got a seam, and the defense STILL doesn’t see him….10….5…..TOUCHDOWN GEORGIA TECH! Ahhh, wow! They tried to get a read on how fast the ball was moving, and they were tackling all the wrong guys. And “Big O” took it right to the house on ‘em. Schrodinger’s Cat, ladies and gentlemen, lives up to the legendary billing.
I met her on the campus, sir, cheering the Brave and Bold.
by GT_Jason on Feb 2, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Big Bang Theory fan I see...
I would we rather just run the 3-man weave Harlem Globetrotters style…
"If you're looking around...then we're looking around" - Coach Paul Johnson
Triple Wildcat
Trademark for that name is patent pending. 3 QBs in the backfield. Could run a cornucopia of formations / plays with that.
I would call it "Chaos Theory"...
I would’ve called it “Organized Chaos” but that went out with Dave Wommack…
"If you're looking around...then we're looking around" - Coach Paul Johnson
Are you combining
Schrodinger’s cat with the Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle? I was waiting for one of your players to act dead…
Yeh maybe...
…frosh chemistry and physics were a long time ago, and I wasn’t an engineering major…
I met her on the campus, sir, cheering the Brave and Bold.
So...
you’re one of these IE people too then? I kid, I kid.
Mmm...close....
Try the other major with “industrial” in the name. Yep, Architorture’s cooler but more torturous twin sister: Industrial Design! One more year of studio but ALL.THE.SEXINESS!!!
As a designer, Schrodinger’s Cat (like all other cats) really should just be used as a case study in biomimmicry for the aesthetics of agility, tenacity, curiosity and crapping in someone’s shoe when you’re upset with them. It’s all a metaphor for the American Dream. Now gimme 200 sketches and a 3D model of that by this time tomorrow!
I met her on the campus, sir, cheering the Brave and Bold.
Multiple-Demensional-String-Theory-Cat
Not only can defense not find the ball, they
can’t find which dimension the playing field is on.
by Atlanta's original team on Feb 3, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
or they can pass through the plane of the goal line
at an infinite number of stadiums
all at the same time
taking an infinite number of routes
included out past Jupiter and back
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by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Feb 3, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Our defense can have the opposition at our 1-yard line...
They will run a succession of plays that will get them half as close to the goalline as the play before. It will take them an infinite amount of tries but they will never get there…
"If you're looking around...then we're looking around" - Coach Paul Johnson
Unfortunately,
when the defense does that that the referee will override the physical laws of the universe (Sorry, Einstein, you are not the best ever) and award the opposition a touchdown as a penalty to the defense for committing a palpably unfair act.
by Dive Keep and Pitch on Feb 3, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Is that a rule?
I’ve thought about the possibility of doing that, jumping offsides until the ball literally can’t move for being so close to the goal line. It would make sense though if that’s against the rules.
The Church of Paul Johnson - There's not much to it outside of whooping ass and giving haters the finger. To HELL With georgie!
Playbook, you have 1.00 times 10 to the first Planck Time to get it right.

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by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Feb 3, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Or the defense can find the right demension in which our offense is operating . . .
but the play already occurred 3 light years earlier. All of which could have been prevented by tackling the guy with the ball except that there were multiple guys carrying balls in multiple dimensions . . .
O.K., that is enough.
by Atlanta's original team on Feb 3, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
I hope to God its open this year
its always so much fun to go watch…and this year I’d actually have a job to do, too!
Paul Johnson: not giving a crap about what you have to say since 1987.
Job? What kind?
The only experience I have with spring practice was March of my freshman year. It was hot, and Nate, another fraternity brother and I went down to watch. We each brought a beer and were sipping it, sitting in the grass, watching the team run drills and whatnot. Next thing you know, the QBs are running sprints, and as they’re walking back to the starting point, Jordan Luallen looks up and asks if we brought a cold one for him.
I knew I loved this place.
The Church of Paul Johnson - There's not much to it outside of whooping ass and giving haters the finger. To HELL With georgie!
Did you hook a Brother up with a Cooool One?
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by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Feb 2, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions

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