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Review the Rivalry: Clemson Tigers

1983 was a disaster...

Rivalry Overview: Tech leads the series 49-25-2 but the average Clemson fan will tell you not to start counting until 1978 (Danny Ford Era) where Clemson has actually won 14 of 29 contests. Since Clemson fans are obsessed with Danny Ford, let's start with the most recent major break in the series occurring from 1978-1982 (otherwise known as an odd time to end a rivalry with a newly minted conference opponent).
"I don't give a damn about the whole state of Georgia...the whole state of Georgia...'cause I'm from Clemson U," the Tigers shouted at the top of their lungs moments after whipping Georgia Tech 31-14 Saturday. - 9/23/1977
Clemson swept Georgie and Georgia Tech on the road for the first time since 1906 in 1977. Put the emphasis on road in that sentence because Tech had forced Clemson to play every game since 1898 in Atlanta except for one in Greenville (1898) and one in Clemson (1974). Georgie had been a little more accommodating for the Tigers and had played a handful of their games against the Tigers in South Carolina. And essentially this was the root cause for the ending of the series. The Bobby Dodd effect had worn off so Tech couldn't force Southeastern teams to play the entire series of a contract in Atlanta (but Tech didn't want to accept this fact either).

The 1977 contest saw Tech fall to the Tigers in almost identical fashion to the 1974 road debacle. Clemson end Jerry Butler caught all 5 of the Tigers' completed passes for a school record 163 yards as the Tigers routed Tech 31-14 in front of 51,000 fans in Atlanta in what most thought was the end of a storied series.

The rivalry was renewed thankfully in 1983 due to ACC scheduling. Tech came into the 1983 following one of the most embarrassing losses in school history (Furman) and Clemson came into the game with NCAA sanctions. Clemson won the game handily and Tech had its first 0-3 start since 1900. The game has been played on a home and home basis, as Clemson wanted back in 1977, ever since 1983.

What Makes the Series a Rivalry: Proximity. 122 miles separates the two campuses. This is the closest ACC opponent to Atlanta by far and Clemson fans love to flood ATL every other year. Competitive balance. 17 of the 29 games since 1983 have been decided by one possession. The average margin of victory in that span is only 9 points.

The ACC Title. Because of Tech and Clemson's forced inter-division game, they are essentially playing a 6th division opponent every season that knows the intricacies of their team through and through. The respective fans know their opponents' coaches, offenses, and defenses. Tech victories in the inter-division rivalry cost Clemson ACC Atlantic Division titles in 2005, 2007, and 2008. Tech's victory in the 2009 ACC Title also took away Clemson's first shot at an ACC crown since 1991.

Personal Rivalry: For me, the rivalry was born in 2003. It is a very simple story. Clemson marched into Atlanta immediately following a statement by Reggie Ball stating Tech wasn't going to lose anymore games... Clemson beat Tech 39-3. I had never been pissed off at a sporting event but that game sparked a little fire in my veins that I haven't relinquished for Clemson ever since. When Tech beats Clemson in any sport, I relish the win like it's an award for working hard amongst the purple and orange hordes. I trace it all back to that one day in 2003...

Any good Clemson stories out there?

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CLEMSON IS A REDNECK SCHOOL, OH DAH DOO DAH DAY
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by Winfield Featherston on Aug 22, 2011 9:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh yeah?

Well GT is….is a….ummmm……..uhh…..is….oh yeah NERDS!

/snickers – showed you

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by AParker on Aug 22, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Say the guys from Atlanter? Come on now

by tmac9wr on Aug 26, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny story

I was a little kid when I started watching the Clemson games at Grant Field. After several seasons I realized we played some of the teams every other year, but Clemson came to Grant Field every season. I asked my dad why we didn’t play Auburn every year. He explained that Auburn wanted us to play at their stadium as much as we wanted them to play at Grant Field. I asked, “Doesn’t Clemson have a stadium?”

Where do we come from? What are we? Where are we going?

by orientalnc on Aug 22, 2011 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

GT is the reason for one of Clemson's interesting traditions

The Clemson $2 bill, per Arm Chair GM

Clemson fans have a tradition of bringing $2 bills with them when going to away games. You usually don’t find very many $2 bills just lying around, so Clemson fans will order them through their local banks. This tradition started one year back in the late 1970’s. Clemson and Georgia Tech had been playing each other for a good number of years now. For those of you that don’t know, Clemson and Georgia Tech are only about an hour and 45 minute drive away from one another. This made for a good little rivalry even though Clemson was in the Atlantic Coast Conference, and Georgia Tech was not.
   Before that game in the late 1970’s, Georgia Tech officials (who shall remain unnamed) decided that they no longer needed Clemson to come to Atlanta to play football. In fact, one of them said that if they stop playing Clemson, it would have no effect on the local economy. This made Clemson fans want to show the Georgia Tech officials, and the city of Atlanta, just how much of an economic impact that the Clemson fans have on the host city. Basically what it turned out to be was a challenge to keep the series alive.
   Clemson wanted to show they would make an impact, but how? They decided that they would take all of their planned spending money, and get them in all $2 bills. They took the $2 bills and stamped tiger paws on them to show that they came from a Clemson fan. The Atlanta area became flooded with these $2 bills. This showed the Georgia Tech administration just how much money the Clemson fans were bringing into the local economy, and the series lived on. Later on that year, Clemson played in the Gator bowl, and fans decided to use the $2 bills again, and since then the tradition has stuck. This led to many people believing Clemson to be a school that “travels well.”

I’ve always enjoyed to Clemson GT series. I think the one game that really sets out in my mind would be the match up in 2004, when we had the game won, and pissed it away at the end with an errant snap to the punter, and then I believe the legend of Calvin Johnson beginning with his pushoff high jump for the ball. Ever since this is one of the many games I look forward to each year. Purple uni’s, our defense doing its best to shut down CPJ’s offense, and whatever miracle play occurs from our O, the bourbon flows and is always enjoyable.

If only Block-C was still doing their tailgates I would do my best to run into you guys again. Looking forward to this years game.

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by AParker on Aug 22, 2011 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

oh, Block-C

pours one out for the rival homies

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by Winfield Featherston on Aug 22, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amazing game no doubt

But yeah, don’t be idiots and try that dumb spread punt formation again. Or rather, please do!

"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
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by Jesse28 on Aug 26, 2011 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man…that was my second game ever at Clemson. What a heart-breaker. What a game though. I still keep hoping Airese Currie will take that last kickoff return to the house.

by tmac9wr on Aug 26, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by Winfield Featherston on Aug 22, 2011 12:43 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

This topic brings me pain and sadness...

Clemson is our nearest and best rivalry game. Unfortunately! I would love to say it was georgie, but how can it be, given the one-sided nature of the series recently? I can’t even comprehend how one-sided it’s been, even over these past 10 years! How is it possible that we’ve lost so many when, clearly, our football team hasn’t been that much worse and at times has been better? It kills me! But I’m off-topic. Sorry…

The point is that we’re stuck with Clemson as our best rival… Moreover, Clemson is Tech’s only ACC opponent that feels like a true rivalry—not an artificial one created by the fact that we’re stuck in the ACC. (I’m not counting Duke, even though they’re a long-time traditional rival.) The Tech-Clemson games are close, the records are fairly even, the schools are relatively similar—in that Clemson is South Carolina’s “engineering school,” such as it is. And I’ve always thought that Clemson fans are a lot like georgie fans. They’re redneck-ish. They have an SEC-size stadium and following. (Auburn with a lake, right?) And like georgia fans, Clemson fans always believe their program is something more than their history would indicate.

FSU had that feeling in the ’90s of becoming a good rivalry game, but with ACC expansion, that opportunity is lost.

Wow! This is a negative post. But really… This topic is depressing to me. I’ll feel better when the season starts.

by Brent L. White on Aug 22, 2011 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

They do travel

I sat in the nosebleeds with the Clemson folks a few years back, Bowden’s last time to Grant Field.

They were fine, but I’m glad none of them had a high powered rifle. I’ve never seen a fan base go from happy to homicidal as quickly as the Tigers. They were all over the coach, players, and refs for any little miscue.

This is our biggest rivalry, with the unique fact that we can play twice yearly (2009) unlike our rivalry with VT, where the focus is on getting past each other to play Clemson or FSU.

Clemson and georgie had a big rivalry going in the early ’80’s. All those great kickers on both sides of the ball, Gardocki, Butler, et al. I pulled for the Tigers, of course.

by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Aug 22, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Clemson fans really turn out....

and follow their Tigers on the road. At the 2009 ACCCG they were all over the place in Tampa dressed in their trademark orange garb. While they were very confident going into that Championship Game, I have never seen a faster evacuation of fans from the stands immediately after Derrick Morgan made that sack on Kyle Parker on 4th down.

I was expecting some obnoxious fan encounters on my walk back to the hotel, however, I was actually surprised when a large group of Tiger fans said to me that Josh Nesbitt is one heck of a player and is something else when he runs the football. They also said good luck in the Orange Bowl which I thought was very classy after another very close loss the Tech that season.

by cuttysark on Aug 22, 2011 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Our Common History

John Heisman, ladies and gentlemen. Clemson fans will remind you that Tech bought a football program by luring John Heisman away from the Clemson U squad that crushed GT in new and disturbing ways. This is the an we have to thank for 1916’s record games (Cumberland anyone? 222-0) and a national championship.

Personally, though, I’ve hated Clemson ever since I first heard that spelling cheer in our stadium. I hate spelling cheers, I hate orange, I hate purple, I hate any team with a common mascot like a tiger, I hate agricultural schools, and I hate teams who get more hype than Tech while often losing to Tech and just winning less than Tech in general (All Time: Tech is .597 +4 MNC’s; Clemson is .591 +1 MNC). Therefore, Clemson is a team I LOVE to hate. Best rivalry we have, in my book.

I could go on and on. Orange overalls. Crying tantrum fans. The 400 pound Clemson fan who told me to shut up after the 2009 White Out win because “…it’s only cause yall couldn’t get into Georgia.” (Eruption of laughter surrounded him and not in the good way.) Ages of hearing “Spiller up the middle.”

I look forward to consistent ownage of the Clemson Tigers.

by GT_Jason on Aug 22, 2011 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

This is one of my ALL TIME favorite posts!!!

I also hate orange. Tennessee has orange. Auburn has orange. Oranges grow in Florida and I hate FSU, UF, and Miami. Actually red is so similar to orange, that I hate red too. Hmmm. Who has red???

Where do we come from? What are we? Where are we going?

by orientalnc on Aug 22, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

(WARNING - RESPONSE WRITTEN IN BRITISH ACCENT)

Red? In American intercollegiate football, you say? Nay, I believe if a team were to use any hue of red it would be entirely unique! Perhaps that would be similar to, say, having a bulldog or tiger as the mascot. But alas…as it remains today in “the good ’ol NCA of A” no one worth mentioning uses red. Shame, really.

by GT_Jason on Aug 22, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Its a special kind of hatred.

Y’know there’s just so much to hate there. And I’m not a negative person, but if ya wanna piss me off…be Clemson. Be Clemson all over my field. Or just be Clemson in life. My head will literally split open and I will stop being the well-adjusted Tech man my momma raised and my boss hired, and I’ll turn right into the whiskey-drankin, rantin’ and ravin’ Ramblin Reck my daddy runs from.

(Puts iPad down and takes a swig from flask) “Clemsum? CLEMSUM?! Forget a Clemsum it’s allabout mah TECH, yhear?!” (throws chair at the wall) (passes out)

by GT_Jason on Aug 22, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Clemson Memories

I remember when we went up to Auburn By The Lake in 1989. We upset #14 Clemson 30-14. I remember the scoreboard flashing over and over "YOU GOTTA…BELIEVE" as time wound down in the fourth quarter and Clemson’s situation looked increasingly hopeless. Keep in mind that before the Maryland home victory the week before, we had not won an ACC game since beating Duke in 1986.

Another memory was going up to Clemson in 1985. We won that one 14-3. The biggest memory from that game was seeing a woman in big orange overalls and big hair lean over the railing, reach in her big ol’ purse, pull out a can of Raid, and try to spray Buzz with it. How many women do you know who carry Raid in their purses?

Lastly was the 2009 ACC championship game. I saw it. I was there. It happened. The only vacancy is the space between the NCAA’s collective ears.

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Clemson fans are usually very hospitable, win or lose. The lone exception is when some punky redneck kid called a friend of mine (of Mexican descent) at the game a “greasy Puerto Rican”. That didn’t end well.

by jabbajacket on Aug 22, 2011 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Georgia Tech?????

Funny thing is when I was younger and didn’t understand the importance of the rivalry I didn’t have a problem w Tech…Joe Hamilton is from South Carolina so I supported him, Some good WR’s…etc etc

But over the years I can’t name a more FLUKISH rival that we have and my civilized hatred of Tech has grown exponentially..been pretty well coached though

But the triple option (that everyone has figured out now) was flukish- will admit you had the right parts, a LB for a QB, Dwyer, Allen, whatever that wingback’s name is etc etc

Flukish 6’9" 240 lb receivers that for some reason we leave in press man cover 0 against 5’10 corners on the most obvious passing situations and biggest plays

The list goes on…but one thing is for sure…You guys are probably staring at a 4 to 5 game losing streak vs us…Sorry to bear the bad news but I’m just the messenger!

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by scgreatest803 on Aug 23, 2011 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Not likely

Dabo is just another Bowden in the making. You guys will get a ton of hype every year, have a lot of hyped recruits, and still never do anything with it. In fact, you guys are a lot like the Mets, they buy a bunch of stars, do well early, and collapse at the end of every season. Yep, that pretty much sums up Clemson every year.

"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.

by Jesse28 on Aug 26, 2011 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

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