Georgia Tech Is Naturally Expected To Appeal NCAA Sanctions
by Winfield Featherston on Jul 18, 2011 11:19 AM EDT
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PrintIn an appearance on the Barnhardt and Durham Radio Show, Georgia Tech Athletics Director Dan Radakovich has mentioned that the Institute is looking into appealing the ruling handed down by the NCAA.
Quick recap of his comments via TheHive message board
Quick Recap:
- Vacating of 2009 Championship is excessive, would like to appeal
- Work being done right now to look at past rulings and see how our case compares
- Talked about declaring players ineligible and apply for reinstatement, but decided there was not grounds to declare them ineligible. It would've been extra risky to do so given the short week (Thanksgiving)
- It didn't seem feasible to not let CPJ know about the investigation somehow
- There was no effort to manipulate anything a S-A told the NCAA, in fact it was quite the opposite
- Working to put together a case for an appeal ASAP - hopefully this week but may take until next week
It should be expected by all parties that Georgia Tech should appeal the ruling by the NCAA. I do not know how much of this supposed appeal will include the basketball violations.
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This is good to hear.
I’m still trying to wrap my mind around the ideas that people are screaming about how Tech fans should be ashamed of their administration. Where is the evidence that we genuinely tried to underhandedly cover up anything? From what I’m reading, we didn’t try to deny anything. The players expained their situations to the investigators. It’s the job of the investigators to determine if there have been any violations regardless of what they may have spoken to their administration about. In the world of hypotheticals, even if we HAD done what the NCAA alledges, (because that’s what it is… pure speculation as worded in the NCAA Report) if their investigators do their job properly, shouldn’t they be able to prove otherwise? Shouldn’t they be able to prove that they ARE in violation of by-laws and therefore are ineligible?
By reading all of the ’like", “um”, “err”, and repetitions from the transcripts in the reports, and without hearing the actual voice recording, it sounds like the investigators are attempting to badger the student athletes into an admission. Yet they have an issue with us providing, essentially, legal counsel to our own students? That really rubs me the wrong way. I have a great deal of anger towards the NCAA for feeling like they can accost students in such a way.
I’m still asking (honest question, not rhetorical sarcasm) : Where in the by-laws does the NCAA Investigative Committee have the right to deny a student athlete cousel with his academic institution in regards to charges brought against him prior to interrogation?
THWG!
I have a friend who works in the athletics office.
She said last Thursday was an absolute shitshow of angry alumni/donors calling Radakovich’s office. She also said that long story short, all of our penalties are a result of a bunch of he-said-she-said nonsense. I’d like to think that we’ll have a pretty solid case on this appeal.
Angry at whom?
I would assume that they were rationally upset at the NCAA?
by Durdens Wrath on Jul 19, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
No, at the Athletics Department.
For things that the NCAA said they did or didn’t do, regardless of what actually did or didn’t go down.
That's a little crazy.
Considering it was the NCAA who was completely in the wrong here.
by Durdens Wrath on Jul 20, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
I think the more details we’ve gotten, the more clear that’s become, but at least to begin with it seemed like Tech had really screwed stuff up. That was when people were upset with us.
2009-2011???
Why the hurry on the appeal?
The Natl Clowns Aggrieved A@&holes take YEARS to figure out that $312=$100,000 and an honestly earned trophy.
If we had an Alum in Congress (think Orin Hatch), we could raise the specter of anti-BCS like hearings instead of appealing to the Clowns Who Have No Boss.
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Jul 18, 2011 6:34 PM EDT reply actions
Love that higher level of reasoning.
So, we would have shown proper respect to the NCAA by not saying anything to Johnson. But we should have made the 2 players ineligible – on what grounds? DRad was supposed to say (not to the actual coach of course) “We have 2 players who may or may not be ineligible, but we can’t tell the coach who they may be, or why they may be ineligible, or even that we know they may be ineligible.”
Thank you . . .
that was what didn’t make sense to me either.
Also, from the AJC reporting (and I confess I haven’t read everything they have written since I live in another state) it wasn’t clear at all to me exactly what the instructions were to DRad. One interpretation could make it sound like “we, the NCAA are only telling two people” implying that “we are leaving it up to you to keep this under wraps and determine who else is on a need to know basis.”
I would say Tech did a darn good job keeping this under wraps.
by Atlanta's original team on Jul 19, 2011 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, how is D-Rad supposed to go through an investigation on players without notifying the head coach? The NCAA would put him in a rather difficult position to try to do this behind CPJ’s back, especially during the season. So even though the players were found eligible, the NCAA is vacating the wins because they are upset at how the institute handled the investigation. Doesn’t make a lot of sense.
agreed.
This is where my first post about “rule following” starts to fall apart. As more details have come out and the press conference was reviewed online, you have to ask how in the world the NCAA can call out integrity issues when they want secrets kept from the tops in the program?
They wanted to blindside us
Better to have died a small boy than to drop this football - John HeismanFromTheRumbleSeat
by Winfield Featherston on Jul 19, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I am upset on Tech's behalf, because if they're doing it to what I consider a very clean program.
God only knows what they’ll do to the SEC where they consider us at the very least historically dirty.
I don’t like at all that you guys got sanctions for what equates to a “gut feeling” by the investigators, with no actual proof.
The NCAA is acting so corrupt that the mafia would go “DAMN.” Your $100,000 fine smacks of protection money.
We should soon see if cooperation helps.
UNC is facing a far worse set of allegations. If they do not get worse than our fine and loss of “face,” then we will know the NCAA will not tolerate any backtalk or disrespect. God knows, they deserve both.
It seems to me we are mostly guilty of the appearance of not cooperating. And that, only in the eyes of the NCAA. I wish there was a way to support Tech and boycott the NCAA. Perhaps a thousand (or more) nuisance lawsuits accusing the NCAA of taking value from our season ticket subscriptions or Tharp Fund contributions. Make them spend a lot of time in Atlanta defending the suits. I will file mine in the courthouse in Bayboro, NC. The NCAA will need Google to find the county clerk.
Where do we come from? What are we? Where are we going?
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