"Our Margin for Error was Very Small" -Putting The Georgia Game and The Season in Perspective
Coach Paul Johnson summed up the Tech loss to Georgia by saying, "Our margin for error was small." He then went on to describe missed opportunities and execution.
Atlanta Journal and Constitution writer, Ken Seguira, gave a similar assessment but in more blunt terms. "Georgia was a better team and Tech had to play a perfect game to win. They did not and they lost."
Both comments resonate with me but not just because I strongly agree with them. I think they also speak to why Tech's future prospects just get rosier and rosier. I will try to explain why after the jump.
To put Tech's loss to Georgia in perspective I would simply invite the reader to reflect on Tech's opus this season. Compare the fist quarter against Georgia with the first quarter against Clemson and you see a Tech offense that is getting stuffed less by the Dogs than by the Tigers. The difference perhaps was that even though Clemson was "manhandling" Tech in ways the Dogs were not, Tech failed to execute against Georgia on several key plays. Perhaps no bigger example was Tech's first offensive play of the game. As one TV announcer pointed out, the passer missed an easy touchdown as "Stephen Hill was open by more than 30 yards." Even as the first half of the Georgia game ended I think any objective observation would say this game was up for grabs.
Allow a digression for a moment about what may appear to be Tech whining. Tech got called for a "chop block" on a play in which frankly I could never find the infraction no matter how many times I watched the replay. Likewise, on two key Georgia possessions a late hit out of bounds was not called against Georgia neither was a flagrant holding call on a pass play. Did these cost Tech the game? Of course not. The point is that a team with a small margin for error cannot afford to have too many opportunities to turn the game around fall by the wayside. Coach Johnson even pointed out that on one Georgia pass for a touchdown, "We had the play called and they still completed it." In other words, Tech's margin for error against a team of Georgia's caliber was so slight that even calling the right defensive assignment still required perfect execution.
Now compare this with the Virginia Tech game and the North Carolina State game. Against Virginia Tech the Jackets were again required to play the perfect game in order to win. I contend that there is a palpable rhythm to every Tech game. If Tech gets a lead and gets into its rhythm long enough the opposing team becomes the one that must play the perfect game. Tech was on the verge of being in that position with the Hokies until a key penalty changed the entire momentum. The difference in the North Carolina State game is quite obvious. State was not good enough at that time to capitalize on all of Tech's miscues and missed opportunities. Every time Tech failed on a play they simply ran it again until they got it right. Teams like Clemson, Georgia and Virginia Tech were far too good to allow Tech to "keep practicing" until they got it right. Some may recall that after the North Carolina State game I was acting a little like chicken-little. The concern that I expressed at that time turned out to be a legitimate one. This team was simply never good enough to overcome self-inflicted wounds against most of the better opponents it would face.
All of this should auger well however for coming seasons under Paul Johnson. This year's small margin for error was due in part to youth and lack of depth at key positions. But at the risk of redundancy, lets go over this again to see now startling in retrospect this year's season was.
Depending on how one counts these things, Tech had at least eight problem areas prior to the start of the season, each of which alone could have produced a losing season:
No nose guard and a suspect defensive line -Most college experts were predicting disaster for Al Groh's system due to a total inability to stop the run. Some predicted at least 6 losses this year based on this factor alone.
No starters returning in the secondary -The old adage used to be that a team will give up one extra touchdown for every new starter in the secondary.
No proven B-back -Many worried that without a star B-back both Tech's time of possession and Tech's total number of possessions would be drastically reduced this year.
An unproven offensive line -Winning teams have good offensive lines and at the start of the season there was no proof that Tech had that. Remember how in spring training our suspect defensive line totally worked over the offensive line?
An unproductive quarterback returning as the starter -What can one say about this? No team can win without a good quarterback but especially a team in which the entire offense requires leadership, precision reads and decision making.
Other than Roddy Jones we had no proven "game-breakers" at A-back -Isn't it amazing how soon Orwin Smith became a household name to Jacket fans after the season started?
Special Teams in total disarray in every area -Again, the experts say that poor special teams play will create several losses during the course of the season in games which you otherwise should have won.
Tech has the youngest roster of any team in the BCS -Can you say wow?
Before the season started I thought any realistic assessment of Tech had to include the possibility of the team going 6-7 and failing to earn a bowl birth. As we poured over practice reports as if we were divining the entrails of a goat we looked for signs of hope. Many of us said that an 8 win season would be a phenomenal success. I went so far as to say that if Coach Johnson won 8 (or more counting a bowl win) that he should be considered for coach of the year honors. On paper there was no meaningful evidence that this team was not in a total rebuilding year.
The cliche is that "baseball is a game of inches." If this is true then perhaps football is a game of attoparsecs, but perhaps my humor is a tad obscure. Let me put it this way. Coach Paul Johnson consistently beats the margin for error with his teams and as a result we tend to start measuring his success by meaningless standards. To paraphrase something Winfield has already eloquently pointed out, would you rather have your expectations raised by someone like Johnson or would you rather settle for expecting less as we did with someone like Gailey? I remain convinced that the reason we start expecting more with Johnson is because subliminally we know the future is very bright with him. Let's hear it for a season that is already far more than we could or should have hoped for!
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Wonderful post.
I have been writing something very similar, but just dropped it into the bit bucket. Yours is better. Thanks for sharing your insights.
"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Seneca
"We have to distrust each other. It is our only defense against betrayal." - Tennessee Williams
Gosh, and aw shucks. Thank you.
by Atlanta's original team on Nov 30, 2011 8:13 AM EST up reply actions
The preseason prediction...
had the Yellow Jackets finishing below Duke in the Coastal so all things considered it was a very good year and CPJ has an opportunity for another win in theupcoming bowl game.
You almost forgot how young and inexperienced this team was, until the inconsistency reared it’s ugly head towards the end of the season. Kudos to CPJ for making it work.
Next year will be more challenging, no doubt. We will be traveling to Clemson, VPI, and uGA…three schools peaking and playing for conference titles. Not sure what schools we face from the Atlantic, but it’s probably time to play FSU, Wake, and BC again…on addition to hosting Miami and UVA. And we basically replace Kansas and WCU with BYU and USL. Much tougher schedule next year IMHO.
Our line play will be key, and I’m hoping Braun, Joe, and Mason will challenge the Beno’s, Kidney’s, and other current OL. On defense, we’ve got to develop TJ Barnes and Shawn Green to really be that 2-gap nose to help stuff the running game.
"Reach down in there...TURN THAT DAMN THING UP!" - Coach Paul Johnson
by TBuzz on Nov 30, 2011 9:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions
You raise several interesting points and . . .
chief among these is your reflection on the schedule. Keeping our expectations in perspective going forward will be interesting given that Tech could be much better next year but actually win one less game than this year simply because of the way the schedule breaks.
by Atlanta's original team on Nov 30, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
On inconsistency
I expected inconsistency at the beginning of the season (especially on defense with the number of new starters). However, it seems like the inconsistency came at the end. My only hope is that it is fatigue related, because the players on our defense (line excluded) are young, talented players that should only get better.
Harder and easier...
We have Clemson, VPI, and georgie on the road, sure, but we should still do OK against Clemson. We have uva at home (no Charlottesville jinx) and a depleted Miami team as well. If we’re decent we should be able to move those into the W column. UNC will still be rebuilding (assuming they aren’t being rocked by the NCAA), and we get the two worst Atlantic teams in the rotation (UMD away, BC at home). We don’t get FSU again until ’13.
Sticking my head out, I predict 10-2 (losses to VPI and georgie, picking up uva and Miami).
2012 and 2013
Have been two seasons I’ve been saying will be full of good memories ever since CPJ started. Why? Well, think about O-line personnel. It took a while to get an all-CPJ line in place. This year we finally did have that albeit a very young version of it. Next year they’ll have this year’s experience plus more weight room/practice time. What I didn’t expect is that it would beYear 3 of a 3-4 defense. Years 3 and 4 of a 3-4 implementation figure to be quite good IF we can find our big earthmover in the middle. Regardless, I think we’ll see more offensive progress in 2013 and 2014.
As for this season, it exceeded my expectations when we crossed the 7 win mark at home against Clemson. Simply put, I didn’t expect us to beat ANY rivals this season, but we got one. If we can win a bowl game, I’ll be quite optimistic about next season.
I think I have already factored in a bowl loss. It is interesting when I look at my own psyche that a bowl win will make me feel better about next season when in reality it has no objective bearing on the overall trend going into next year.
by Atlanta's original team on Nov 30, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
Bowl wins matter for...
…next year’s media hype. If we lose to Air Force in Shreveport, nothing will be expected of us and we will figure to have no preseason ranking. If we beat, say, Cal or Washington in the Sun Bowl it looks far better for us in terms of getting any media attention (not saying we’ll get ranked preseason, though.) Wins and the subsequent media attention could aid recruiting.
Also, for returning starters the bowl is more practice time, more game experience, etc.
Even if its against UofU?
"Reach down in there...TURN THAT DAMN THING UP!" - Coach Paul Johnson
by TBuzz on Nov 30, 2011 10:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
PLEASE NO BOWLS AGAINST UTAH, AIR FORCE, OR FRESNO
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
I write stuff From the Rumble Seat.
by BirdGT on Nov 30, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
better watch out
Sun Bowl vs. Utah or Arizona State
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by Winfield Featherston on Nov 30, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Therein lies the rub
Again, I would argue that bowl wins are mainly symbolic at this point. I was in favor of skipping the bowl last year as some may recall. The only, and I mean only, argument in favor of going last year was to keep our consecutive bowl appearance intact. This year it is a reward for hard work but I would not count on it for recruiting or recognition or even as a way to get a leg up on next year. Would I be excited about a bowl victory? Of course. But it means nothing in terms of next year’s performance.
by Atlanta's original team on Nov 30, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
When we were ranked #13
I thought we being overrated. That ranking, along with inflated stats, started the process inflating our expectations to some point close to our stats. We were never that good and the Maryland game brought that to light.
"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Seneca
"We have to distrust each other. It is our only defense against betrayal." - Tennessee Williams
The chop block
Technically, it was a chop block: the defender was engaged high with a lineman while another cut him. However, it probably should have been called “defensive holding” because the lineman engaged high was trying to get to the second level and the defender was holding him up. That’s something that’s difficult for the official behind the play to see, so I can’t blame him too much.
No blame from my perspective either
I was simply saying, as so many others have, that we had way too many calls go the “wrong way” for us to win this game. The point being that good teams overcome these things but teams with a small margin for error are doomed by them.
by Atlanta's original team on Nov 30, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Kudos on the new GT Recruiting Board feature...
Not sure when it was put up but it looks nice!
"Reach down in there...TURN THAT DAMN THING UP!" - Coach Paul Johnson
Perfect game = Clemson.
I thought that fumbles would be our BIG margin of error. Pleased that fumbles weren’t TOO large in our season.
You'd do it for Randolph Scott!
RANDOLPH SCOTT!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Nov 30, 2011 4:05 PM EST reply actions
What annoyed me most about this season
was when tevin seemed to wave goodbye to his arm and the recievers decided to embrace dropping the ball as a form of communication again.
Paul Johnson: not giving a crap about what you have to say since 1987.
by GTNate on Nov 30, 2011 6:39 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Writers for the AUC
Ken Seguira had another good column. Made up for the ham-handed, hacky, hung-over-gotta-make-deadline Schultz article and the positively gratuitously insulting Bark Madley column that was much more red meat for the Dog fans than it was hard-hitting journalism. Bark Madley can kiss my ass.
georgie was the better team Saturday, primarily because they had better players at most every position, period. Not because CPJ was “outcoached”, and while CAG has some work to do, our D wasn’t horrible. Again, it’s Jimmies and Joes over X’s and O’s.
CMR is a good coach—probably a solid 4 on a 5 scale—and so is CPJ. Back when we had Gailey, I said that Tech should offer CMR if georgie ever fired him. And I still don’t understand the “entitlement” mentality that much of the Bulldog Nation has where they feel like they are entitled to win every game and they want to sack the coach when they don’t. Some teams are just better than you and it’s time they got over that.
Mark my words—there WILL be a contingent wanting to fire CMR if (when?) he loses to LSU, because it’s been oh-so-long since they won the SEC, y’know, and georgie is just DUE if they only had a decent coach. Nevermind that LSU is one of the best teams I have seen in YEARS.
The contingent that continually wants to fire CMR...
is just the jealous shallow neighbor tired of watching his fellow neighbors (Tennessee, LSU, UF, Bama, Auburn) bring home National Championships.
"Reach down in there...TURN THAT DAMN THING UP!" - Coach Paul Johnson
Totally Agree
Due to the pre-season assessments, the facts you noted, especially the concerns on both lines…I was expecting a 6-6 season. Several of the prognosticators were predicting we would only have 4 wins. So we exceeded expectations by a considerable amount. Most of us would be very happy if our boss thought we exceeded expectations at our job.
I DO look forward to the future. One of the eternal problems at Tech (for decades) has been the lack of depth. Since CPJ arrived, my main concern has been the consistent and almost total lack of depth on the O-line. That is the missing link. With such a young line this year, it will only get better.
"Other than Roddy Jones we had no proven "game-breakers" at A-back"
If anyone actually believed that then they haven’t been paying attention to the talent on this team. I’ve stated multiple times over the past few years that Orwin Smith should have been starting over Peebles. When Dwyer took over the B-Back spot, Smith got the starting nod returning kicks and he was downright amazing in my book. You could always tell he was ready to break it open.
So, I disagree that we had no other proven A-Backs other than Roddy Jones.
From The Rumble Seat -Drinkin' whiskey clear since 2008.
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
Also
Excellent article. Eight wins, with or without the bowl, is where I set the bar in the preseason. I think winning the bowl game is more important than getting eight regular season wins though.
Regardless, this season is definitely a success and I think we can all agree it’s a much needed improvement from last year.
From The Rumble Seat -Drinkin' whiskey clear since 2008.
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
i kinda disagree with you saying that Roddy was a proven A-Back.
Other than two plays in ‘08 i don’t remember much he did right
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by The_GT_LineageX11 on Nov 30, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
You have to judge A-backs...
by their ability to block as well.
"Reach down in there...TURN THAT DAMN THING UP!" - Coach Paul Johnson
by TBuzz on Nov 30, 2011 11:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Exactly
I always felt comfortable that Roddy was not going to miss many assignments over a season.
by Atlanta's original team on Dec 1, 2011 8:31 AM EST up reply actions
You and I have a different definitio of "proven."
It is not that we didn’t see potential. If you are a homer you almost always see potential. But other than Roddy Jones we did not have anyone of record who had consistently demonstrated the ability to break off “50 yard plus” touchdown runs during a game.
by Atlanta's original team on Dec 1, 2011 8:28 AM EST up reply actions
That may be the case
However I would contend that his results as the returner was what proved his ability. Just as Dwyer’s results returning kicks proved his ability prior to that. No one else at the position has inspired any confidence in me to say they are able to become a “game-changer”, which is the term you used, not “50-yard plus” though that does qualify as a game-changing play. Orwin Smith’s ability as a runner was highly evident as it always appeared that he was about to return one to the house, which I believe he did a couple of times. The way a ball carrier handles himself is the same once the ball is in their hands and that is what was proven with him.
From The Rumble Seat -Drinkin' whiskey clear since 2008.
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
You are more observant than me. :-)
by Atlanta's original team on Dec 1, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Meh
My contacts haze over gold from time to time, so let’s call it a friendly opinion, haha!
From The Rumble Seat -Drinkin' whiskey clear since 2008.
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
I liked Roddy don't get me wrong....
but it just seemed time after time Roddy couldn’t shake a tackler or make somebody miss, didn’t explode through holes, and dropped way too much easy passes.
After a while, those seem to warp the image in the mind
This is my Family Tradition
by The_GT_LineageX11 on Dec 1, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I think the injury caused a good bit of hesitation in him last year
From The Rumble Seat -Drinkin' whiskey clear since 2008.
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
Delusional
I expected to see people seething on here (see the Pitt Blather blog, for instance). But you guys seem content with an 8-4 season. All in all that might not be so bad — but we just got bitch-slapped by our biggest rivals for the 10th time in 11 years. CPJ’s recruits are slow, small, and not particularly skilled. One Jacket made honorable mention on the all-ACC team — and he arguably cost Tech the division title. CPJ comes across like an ass — and no one really good seems to want to play for him. From the article and posts, most of you all seem resigned to his kind of mediocrity. I have a Tech degree and I’m damn sure not satisfied with being Georgia’s (or anybody else’s) doormat. Get mad, people, or it won’t change.
by BayouPhilosopher on Nov 30, 2011 11:31 PM EST reply actions
I love posts like these...
where the poster assumes that fans want to win more than the players and coaches do.
"Reach down in there...TURN THAT DAMN THING UP!" - Coach Paul Johnson
by TBuzz on Nov 30, 2011 11:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You may need a sip of reality and perspective
No matter how big the rivalry is, Georgia Tech’s football season is not and should not be defined by the result of the uga game. That game plays no part in either team’s conference championship stakes and would only affect the national championship chances of either if they were undefeated going into the game. Winning the Coastal and the ACC is much more important than winning the uga game because it directly affects the potential income for our conference and our school. Beating uga only grants us braggin rights for a year and maybe net us a recruit or two, nothing more.
Am I upset at the way we played and the fact that we lost yet again? Sure, but you’re absolutely wrong if you think getting mad about it is going to directly change that. I can throw things, vent on this site, and stomp my feet when discussing it with co-workers, but none of that is going to change the fact that we have played like crap against uga the past few seasons and it isn’t going to change the losses to wins. CPJ is not the reason we’ve lost 10 of the last 11. He’s only a small recent part of it, but Gailey has more to do with that losing streak than anything.
Finally, it’s not about just being content with an 8-4 season. I’m not content with 8-4 seasons, because otherwise we should have never fired Gailey. He was always good for 7-8 wins a year. I want more than that. We should be competing for the ACCCG every damg year imo. However, last year was brutal and we lost a lot of good quality starters on both offense and defense. With as many issues this team was facing coming into the season, going 8-4 is an great improvement and by all accounts should be considered a solid success. If we win the bowl game, you are looking at a younger, possibly less talented team going 9-3 compared to 6-7 the year before. If you can’t find or see the success in that, then I guess you’ll just have to live in perpetual anger.
From The Rumble Seat -Drinkin' whiskey clear since 2008.
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
by Jesse28 on Dec 1, 2011 8:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
then I guess you’ll just have to live in perpetual anger.
The Internet is where anger lives…
"Reach down in there...TURN THAT DAMN THING UP!" - Coach Paul Johnson
He [Chan] was always good for 7-8 wins a year.
Not true. With one 9 win season exception, he was good for 7 wins a year. I didn’t believe when I read that, but I went and looked it up and sure enough GT was 7-5 or 7-6 every year under Gailey except for the one year when the record was 9-5.
With CPJ, there has been more volatility, 6 wins to 11 wins, but the average number of wins per year has increased: 8.5 versus 7.3 (includes 2011 YTD results).
by Dive Keep and Pitch on Dec 1, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Have to wonder...
With Tech sitting at 5-3 when Nesbitt got hurt in 2010, would the record have been different of he wasn’t hurt? Of course, you could argue Tevin might not have been as effective in 2011 either had he not gotten a head start in the offense…
"Reach down in there...TURN THAT DAMN THING UP!" - Coach Paul Johnson
by TBuzz on Dec 1, 2011 10:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd still argue that CG himself was good for 7-8 wins a year
And that Reggie Ball wouldn’t allow that to happen. IMO, more losses can be attributed to Ball than to Gailey during that four year period.
From The Rumble Seat -Drinkin' whiskey clear since 2008.
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
Also
Last time I checked 7 < 7.3 < 8, therefore my statement is still true.
From The Rumble Seat -Drinkin' whiskey clear since 2008.
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
Last time I checked 7 < 7.3 < 8, therefore my statement is still true
Cute, except that I wasn’t aware you could be awarded a partial win. Also, at no time did Gailey ever finish a season with 8 wins. His most common result, by far, was 7 wins, which happened five seasons out of the six seasons he was at GT.
Anyway, going back to your point. Yes, you are right in that if being a smidgen better than a .500 football team was acceptable then Gailey was the right man. With the haul from his 2007 class, it’s possible that he would have gone back to the ACCCG again. I also agree with you that calling for CPJ’s head for losing to uga again, is unjustified at this point. He’s beaten uga more times than Gailey ever did. If Gailey had won once against uga, he might still be the GT head coach. Certainly if he had won 2 or 3 times against uga I think it’s highly likely he would still be the GT head coach.
by Dive Keep and Pitch on Dec 2, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
CCG played Ball…therefore Gailey limited our wins. Especially in that 2006 season where every Tech fan literally cried out for Taylor Bennett to get PT…and were rewarded in the Gator bowl later that year with an offensive explosion.
"Reach down in there...TURN THAT DAMN THING UP!" - Coach Paul Johnson
And exactly what did he do the following year?
And what exactly has he done since? The answer is nothing and nothing. There’s no gaurantee that Bennett would have been able to produce through a season like he did in ONE game and there was no evidence of that prior to the game. However, there are two seasons worth of information proving that he could do no better than Ball after that ONE bowl game.
2006 Reggie Ball
44.4%, 6.0 ypa, 20-14 TD/INT, 107.2 rating
2007 Taylor Bennett
49.5%, 6.5 ypa, 7-9 TD/INT, 106.0 rating
Roughly the same. True, Ball did have Megatron that year, but even then Ball himself won a few games because of his ability to move in, and out of, the pocket. Replace Ball with Bennett in those games and you are doing no more that swapping the wins and losses around and the reason for them happening.
Either way, you have tunnel vision on an item in my comments that has no true bearing on the point I was attempting to make. CG average was 7.3, therefore he was good for 7-8 wins a year, the larger point being that he was good for a winning season each year and that if anyone was simply content with having a winning season, then we were doing fine with Gailey and shouldn’t have fired him. I don’t feel that everyone here is simply content to have a winning season, but it’s too early for unjustified anger towards CPJ for simply losing a game to uga in a season when winning eight should be considered a successful season.
From The Rumble Seat -Drinkin' whiskey clear since 2008.
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
Using college QB ratings to compare is pretty arbitrary...
since the level of competition swings wildly. Reggie looked great against the Savannah St’s of the world…and it’s been pretty documented how he folded in his biggest games (against uGA and the 2006 ACCCG against WF).
CCG was not a terrible coach. I mean, when was the last time we could claim a better recruiting class than Jawjah like we did in 2007 when we got Dwyer, Morgan, Nesbitt, Burnett, Claytor, Tarrant, Peters, Roddy, etc. The problem is that CCG could never get his players to play at or above their normal capabilities for any longer than 1-2 games.
Having a pro-style offense puts a major emphasis on recruiting the best possible QB you can, since the QB is such an invaluable tool at checking plays at the line to attack defensive schemes. Unfortunately CCG never had that QB…
"Reach down in there...TURN THAT DAMN THING UP!" - Coach Paul Johnson
It's not just the ratings
If that’s all I wanted to compare, that would have been the only stat I listed. My point is that neither Ball nor Bennett were any good so I am very doubtful that swapping Ball for Bennett would have made much of a difference. Basically, your last sentence is my point.
From The Rumble Seat -Drinkin' whiskey clear since 2008.
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
Correction
In my final few comments, it should read “9-4 compared to 6-7”, not 9-3. My apologies.
From The Rumble Seat -Drinkin' whiskey clear since 2008.
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
Spoken like a true bandwagon fan, Bayou.
We won more games than last year. Every team wants to win the national title every year. There are also more important things in life than getting mad at a bunch of collegiate football players.
Rationalize Tech football mediocrity all you want 071u
It’s not about “getting mad at collegiate football players”— it’s about sending a message to CPJ and Radikovich that 8-4 seasons and 1 and 11 against UGA won’t cut it. Not winning your ACC division won’t cut it. BTW, winning the Coastal and then getting crushed by a weak UGA team as in 2009 sends a glowing message that the ACC is a PANSY conference a la the Big East. GT loses to UGA consistently not because our players lack desire — but because they lack football / athletic TALENT comparable to their opponents. Don’t think UGA doesn’t think beating Tech is Job 1 — it’s the main requirement for Richt in that job. Ask Jim Donnan. Start beating them / competing with them — or get ‘em off the schedule because for now, it’s an automatic “L”. Ask the public where they will put their dollars in athletics. If mediocrity is ok with you all, the Tech fan base is going to get pretty small. Good luck financing that.
by BayouPhilosopher on Dec 8, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
On a slightly related post
There has been some discussion on this site about whether we put too much emphasis on the Georgia game and whether that has an effect on how the team has played the last few years. I have been mulling that over. One way to check that possibility out would be to see if over time CPJ has a better away record playing Georgia in Athens than at home. Right now my anecdotal observation is that Tech under CPJ has played above their ability in Athens and below their ability in Atlanta when playing Georgia. Last year’s losing season team played better against them than this year’s winning season team. It will be interesting to see over the years how this plays out.
by Atlanta's original team on Dec 1, 2011 8:39 AM EST reply actions
I'm optimistic about Georgia Tech's Future
Nice article. I too am very optimistic about GT’s future. Georgia Tech exceeded expectations this year. I disagree that they needed to play perfect against the Hokies. I think they should have won that game to be honest. They had two critical mistakes at the wrong time.
My take on the Virginia Tech game
I think they had to play a perfect game against Georgia. The Bulldogs seemed to get most of the good breaks in that game. It seemed that fate was on their side plus I do think the Bulldogs were the better team.
I am optimistic (maybe to a fault) about the defense. I think Attaochu has NFL type skills and I’m hoping he will emerge as a leader and elevate everyone’s play. Of the 11 commits for next year, 6 are defensive players. If we can get the defense improved, I think the sky’s the limit.
Joe Roberts
Thanks for the articles
Not that I read everything written after the Tech game but you were one of the few to point out the inexplicable extra yards the Georgia receiver was awarded after his knee was down.
As for the Virginia Tech game I always feel good leading up to that game. We play them well and they have yet to find an answer for CPJ’s offensive system. “Playing perfect” is perhaps subjective but what I meant is that Tech could not afford the mistakes and missed opportunities that it had against VT and expect to win. Against Georgia the margin for error was even smaller. I think we all long for the day when Tech is good enough to play through its errors and mistakes and not be devastated by them. Great teams don’t have to play perfect every time to win.
On future seasons I too am excited about the trend lines. As far as recruits it appears Tech is getting lots of help on both lines in the future. Give this team a strong line and, as you say, the sky’s the limit.
by Atlanta's original team on Dec 2, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
Most VPI fans...
Most VPI fans I talk with are always uneasy leading up to the ACC Coastal Division Play-In Game (Techmo Bowl), and when they win they always feel like they really had to bring it to win it, and had a little luck. Most VPI fans have a lot of respect for us and our program.

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