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Georgia Tech vs. Duke: Yes We Found A Duke Football Fan

 

Thanks to the power of twitter, we were able to find some Duke folks who were willing to talk Duke Blue Devils football. North Carolina radio host Joe Ovies put us in touch with The Devil Wolf, contributor to the DukeHoopBlog. Only it's not JUST hoops. Football is a conversation as well. In anticipation of our matchup against the Dookies, why don't we peer into the Duke football mind?

1. What do Duke fans think about ACC expansion as a whole?
 
I think a lot of Duke fans don't get expansion because it's a football decision and, quite frankly, Duke fans by nature are mostly basketball/olympic sports fans.  The old ACC was very North Carolina-centric, and it still is to a certain extent, but I think old school Duke fans liked the idea of Duke and UNC's basketball rivalry being the defining event in the conference.  Personally, I think expansion has been fantastic for the league.  Sure, I'd like to see us get the return on investment from Miami that we expected, but I think it's brought a nice balance between football and basketball.  The ACC still has ground to make up in on-the-field success in football, but expansion has brought attention to ACC football that never existed before.  As a fan, I can go through a whole season and see every Duke football and basketball game on TV, or at worst, on ESPN3.com. That's a benefit that never would have come without expansion.  In terms of bringing in Pitt and Syracuse, and with the possibilities out there of a Notre Dame, UCONN, Rutgers, and so on, I think we're all for it.  Just like everyone, we pile a huge amount of criticism on John Swofford for the way he handles day-to-day operations within the league, but expansion 2.0 was a power move and showed incredible strategic thought on his part.  We see schools like Stanford and Vanderbilt and Northwestern who are able to bring in enough athletes to compete for a bowl game each year mixed in with the outside chance of finishing first in their league, and they're able to do it because of the prestige of the conference they play in.  I'm all for Coach Cut being able to go into a kid's home and offer a chance at a Duke diploma mixed with the chance to play in a super-conference. 
 
2. David Cutcliffe has made Duke more competitive but that's about it. What's his position like at Duke right now? Is he close to being on the hot seat at all?
 

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There's two major groups of Duke fans ... those who are so conditioned to be disgusted with everything relating to our football program, and those who don't really pay attention.  In the middle, there's a small faction of "swing voters" who really pay attention to what's going and think things through before forming an opinion.  That's where Cut's challenge lies, in that middle group of fans.  Speaking personally, as a member of that group, I know how hard Cut's job is, and I know how bad it was before he got here.  Fans are quick to point out he's finally at the stage in his career at Duke where he's coaching his own players, but in reality, Cut's players are playing at other programs.  So much has to change at Duke to start winning some of those recruiting battles, it would set us back tremendously to think about making a change at the head coaching position.  Cutcliffe has sold tickets, he's raised money for a beautiful indoor practice facility that's the envy of the ACC, he's improved our outdoor facilities, and he's raising money to improve the stadium on a plan that he got approved.  There was so much work that needed to be done away from the field to even begin to have any sort of expectation relating to the on-field results.  Having said that, the close losses, they build up and they feed the frustration of the fanbase.  In the end, I don't think Cut's anywhere close to the hot seat.  What's the worst that could happen by giving him a few extra years?  Duke fans stop coming to games?  Recruits stop pouring into the program?  There's too much upside to keeping Cutcliffe, and there's very little actual pressure on Kevin White to get rid of him.
 
3. What are some missing pieces that need to be obtained to get Duke to that 6th win and bowl eligibility?
 
The easy answer is "players".  To go a little deeper, I'd say playmakers.  Duke has to work so hard for every yard, every point, every stop, that the margin for error is absolutely microscopic.  You look at a team like Clemson who played an awful game last week against Wake Forest, they're able to come out with the win because they got big plays from big time playmakers at the most opportune times.  Even against us, you see Virginia Tech winning the game because they hit on a couple of big plays to Coale, or Wake Forest getting the big touchdown to Givens ... both of those plays were very much against the way the game was going at the time.  Cutcliffe has done a nice job of building a team of solid players, and even has built some depth during his time here.  But we've lacked that super-explosive playmaker that can shift momentum with a big score or a big first down just based on their own individual effort.

4. Unfortunately, Tech fans don't know a lot of the players that play football for Duke. Who should we look out for on Saturday?
 
Unfortunately Duke fans don't know a lot of the players that play football for Duke either.  For Tech fans, I think you can look out for the usual suspects ... quarterback Sean Renfree, receivers Donovan Varner and Conner Vernon, and running backs Desmond Scott and Juwan Thompson.  Varner and Vernon both are coming off a game where they had some awful drops.  Renfree has a reputation as a top quality quarterback, but I'm honestly starting to wonder how much of that is based on Cutcliffe's status as a quarterbacks guru.  He's accurate and throws a nice ball, but his decision making has not been very good this season.  He's too quick to rely on his checkdown routes, which usually allows him to wind up with statistics like 78 yards on 13-16 passing.  Defensively, the conversation starts and ends with safety Matt Daniels.  Daniels is a guy who will play on Sundays.  He defends the pass, he defends the run, and he hits really hard.  Our defensive line has been ruined due to injuries, so I'd expect a lot of tackles to be made in the secondary on Saturday.  And you can't talk about Duke without talking about kicker Will Snyderwine and quarterback Anthony Boone.  Expect to see Boone any time the Devils get into the redzone, and expect him to run.  Anytime you see Snyderwine, expect him to miss.  Snyderwine was a pre-season all-American, but is less than 50% on the season and is completely done mentally.  If Duke's going to be successful on Saturday, it will be up to our secondary to defend the big play as I'm sure we'll be crowding the line trying to get into your backfield.  Ross Cockrill is our best defensive back outside of Daniels.  Offensively, expect us to run heavily with Thompson and Scott and try to play keepaway from your offense. 
 
5. Ok finally, you've made it through FOUR questions. Now, what was it like for Mike Kryzaweosascheski to notch win #903. Feel free to gloat as necessary. 
 
The number itself is insane.  If a coach got his first job today, he'd have to win 30 games for 30 straight seasons to get within three games of where K is right now.  And that's not even taking into consideration that Krzyzewski, in my opinion, isn't close to being done.  I think he'll end up with around 1100 to 1200 wins for his career, and that record's not being broken unless there's a drastic change in the number of games played in the NCAA in the future.  I'm all about gloating, but it's tough to gloat about a guy you know is a once in a lifetime coach and a living legend.  It's more humbling than anything else to know that I've had an opportunity to watch him coach my favorite team, to go to his basketball camps, to go to school with his kids, for my kids to go to school with his grandkids, and just to know that I'm in some way connected to one of the best who has ever done it.  It's just one of those rare things where it's more special to know what we have at Duke than it is to gloat about what everyone else doesn't have.  Except for Carolina.  They can go to hell.



Many thanks to the Devil Wolf and Go Jackets!

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block quotes more, like me

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by BirdGT on Nov 17, 2011 10:36 AM EST reply actions  

put it to a vote

let the commetariat decide

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by Winfield Featherston on Nov 17, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

To hell with block quotes!!! They are about even with the detention center in Athens.

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by orientalnc on Nov 17, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Not to start a controversy . . .

but does anyone else find Coach K to be a little bit of a jerk? I don’t know if it is the Bobby Knight influence but over the years I have seen him do some things that really make me think he is not all sweetness and light. I am not talking about a gruff exterior with a deeper, almost hidden, compassionate side like Coach Johnson, I mean there seems to be some real darkness underneath this guy’s skin. If no one else has picked up on this I will be quiet after this.

by Atlanta's original team on Nov 17, 2011 10:52 AM EST reply actions  

I haven't seen it

but then again, I don’t pay attention much to basketball. I don’t think that being a head coach and a nice guy always go hand in hand, so it wouldn’t bother me if the guy’s a little bit of a jerk. After all, it’s results that matter.

by acedarney on Nov 17, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Did you ask for some Coach K Haterade?

Here you go via Andrew Sharp on the Mothership

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by Winfield Featherston on Nov 17, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

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Eh.I’ve heard some say that Paul Johnson is a jerk. Perception is everything these days. Results speak for themselves. He really is a living legend (Coach K) and you have to admire what he has done. There have been times where they remind me of the Atlanta Braves — they will make it to the end of the season and then choke. They have more than one championshiop in the last 20 years too though.

by 071u on Nov 17, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

People who cirticize Paul Johnson because they don't like his presonality are themselves jerks

I do not mind any coach who has a prickly personality or who wins. What I like about Coach Johnson though is that he really does care if a kid gets an education. He wants the best for that kid whether he plays or not, whether he is happy on the team or not. He is not just using people to get headlines for himself.

by Atlanta's original team on Nov 17, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I should add however,

that i’m neutral on him. don’t care too much

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by Winfield Featherston on Nov 17, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The historical perspective

Duke has the seeds of potential to be a huge rival of ours. If they’d stayed good at football through the years we’d be boiling over with hate for them, most likely. They’re one of our most frequently-played opponents and games between Tech and Duke (when both were national powers) were heated contests.

Sad that it is always our annual W on the schedule. But this season we really need to make this a big win. It would serve us well for this game to be Kansas-like.

by GT_Jason on Nov 17, 2011 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

Second longest continuous series...

We have played Duke every year, without a break, since 1933. The only school with a longer series with us is georgie. Auburn was longer still until we dropped them after 1987.

We have only lost to Duke twice since The Ol’ Ball Coach walked the sidelines for them. Once was in 1994, when Bxxx Lxxxx was fired midseason and CGO picked up the pieces to finish 1-10. The other time was when Ted Roof was coaching Duke, I think it was 2004, and we got clobbered.

by jabbajacket on Nov 17, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I heard their O-line takes flops like their power forwards

by Yakub2 on Nov 17, 2011 11:10 AM EST reply actions  

I will be in Durham for my second game of the season.

Will try to cheer loud enough for all of you. Thankfully, this cold front is moving through and the weather should be wonderful. Dinner at Pop’s on Saturday night. Yeah!

"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Seneca
"We have to distrust each other. It is our only defense against betrayal." - Tennessee Williams

by orientalnc on Nov 17, 2011 11:35 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

have fun. bring em a victory!

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by Winfield Featherston on Nov 17, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too

Big day. Dixie Gun Show in the morning, Tech FB in the afternoon. Will be the guy in Section 11 with the Tech gear on.

by ee8384 on Nov 17, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

So where exactly did you find a Duke fan?

Because I’m calling BS, bet you wrote the responses to your own questions. The only thing they have at Duke are funny dressed kids and asians, an you don’t got no slanty eyes

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by AParker on Nov 17, 2011 2:24 PM EST reply actions  

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