Calvin Johnson Robbed?
by BirdGT on Sep 12, 2010 7:25 PM EDT
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PrintWatch this clip. Did Calvin bring in the touchdown and save the day for the Lions or was it a good call by the officials?
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saw this play on tv
When you have the former head of officials on Fox talking about “the process” and “the second phase” [paraphrased] you know that play analysis has gone too far. He was simply excited and put the ball down too soon. He had one-handed possession. Awful. Because they reversed themselves on the field, there was no way the video replay would overturn THAT.
that was
a horrible call
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by The_GT_LineageX11 on Sep 12, 2010 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
What happens when you get too many rules
On NBC they just reported that the NFL is insisting that the referee’s opinion was correct to the letter of the rule.
The rule is a direct contradiction to common sense. Any sane person (even non football fans) knows that was a TD.
not only was Calvin robbed....
but so was I. He’s on my fantasy team.
By the letter of the rule
it was not a touchdown. By common sense… it was a touchdown and a great catch that should have won the game for Detroit. Now they have to regroup with the lose of Matthew Stafford for what looks to be a third of the season.
It's hard to say what's been most impressive. The seamless jump from AA? The ability to hit for average? The ability to hit for power? The 18 walks in 111 trips to the plate? The flair for the dramatic? When you're trying to isolate the most impressive aspect of Jason Heyward's game, there's a lot to choose from, and it's only been a month and a half.
No TD
I heard about this play from a Bears’ fan and agreed that the player was being stupid (re, not paying attention) and should’ve tucked the ball and celebrated later. Upon seeing this post, I was very sad to see it was a Yellow Jacket making that mistake. We’re supposed to have “heady” and “aware” players coming out of our program. I’m sticking to my guns and calling this incomplete.
Fan of: Cardinals, Blues, Sounders, Yellow Jackets, Wolverines, Rams, and Blazers.
Good Call. Rule is flawed.
The officials made the right call. They had to follow the rules.
Now should the rule be changed? That is a perfectly good question.
Does this rule contradict the other
rule that talks about crossing the plane of the goal? Apparently it does unless the only exception to the crossing the plane rule is if it is a one handed catch. Too bad Calvin Johnson is good enough to make a one handed catch. (irony)
by Atlanta's original team on Sep 13, 2010 8:09 AM EDT reply actions
Weird rule interactions
If you have full possession outside the endzone, break the plane, and then lose control an inch across the line, TD. If you catch a ball in the middle of the endzone, hold it for a full second as you’re falling to the ground, but let go of the ball before you are completely on the ground, no catch and no TD.
It was a good call. Refs did their job. Bad rule.
by first and thom on Sep 13, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the real issue
is that Calvin processes things so much faster than normal people. He catches the ball, has complete control, and thinks he has a touchdown incredibly quick. He is a freak not only physically but also hand-eye-coordination-wise. When he considers the ball a catch, it’s so fast and fluid, it’s difficult for us to process it with a normal human perspective. Calvin had 100% control and set the ball down before we even realized it was a touchdown.
I write stuff From the Rumble Seat.
exactly
the play was over before the officials could even focus.
by Atlanta's original team on Sep 13, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Already on the ground!
He had control of the ball…his body (knee/hip) was already on the ground…Play Over!
Consider this
If he flips it to the ref from his back, is it incomplete?
Good point
according the rule nazis it would then be incomplete. Is this not crazy?
by Atlanta's original team on Sep 14, 2010 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions
No
The rule is that he has to go maintain possession all the way down. It’s not enough to possess the ball with a knee down or an elbow down. You have to have the ball until the downward motion stops.
If he were lying on his back, he’d have the ball and would have successfully gone to ground. That’s not what happened.
I’m not defending the rule – but the refs made the “right” call. It should have been a TD, but that’s because the rule, not the ref, is wrong.
by first and thom on Sep 14, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Except that he had possession
and their is no “second act” in the rule book.
by Atlanta's original team on Sep 14, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
check out the Detroit blog below.
by Atlanta's original team on Sep 14, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn't say anything about a second act - and I read the Detroit blog
Calvin made a great catch that he didn’t finish under the current rules. To have possession, you’ve got to go to ground without losing the ball. What I think was decisive is this: the arm holding the ball snapped down when he landed on his butt. When that hand hit the ground, the ball came out, so it looked like he didn’t have possession.
Again, not defending the rule – only the refs. I think Calvin is a monster receiver and I am desperately rooting for the Lions this year. I want to call that a TD. But I can’t. For the record, the Saints should not have been given the 2-point conversion, either.
by first and thom on Sep 14, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
so your interpretation is that the ball came loose when he hit the ground. That would certainly make it an incomplete pass by the rule. I guess those of us who are critical of the call are saying that the judgment that the ball came loose is a matter of one interpretation. Out of the two possible interpretations that one seems to be the least logical to me. But that is just my judgment.
by Atlanta's original team on Sep 14, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Well done
after reading the interview I am now convinced that the referee was making it up on the spot, not due to any dark motives, just really confused.
by Atlanta's original team on Sep 14, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
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