How often does an ACC Champ repeat?
by BirdGT on Jul 19, 2010 8:00 AM EDT
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PrintAfter I hung up with him, I thought about a topic for today: How hard is it to repeat as ACC Champion? So I looked it up. There have been 57 years of ACC football with 7 split titles making 64 ACC Champions since 1953. In those 57 years of ACC football, the champion has repeated 26 times (46% of the time). The longest streak was obviously FSU's run of nine straight ACC titles from 1992-2000.
Interestingly enough, only seven schools in the ACC have ever had back to back football titles. The schools were FSU, VPI, Clemson, Duke, UNC, Maryland, and NC State. Only Miami and Boston College have yet to win ACC Titles but they've obviously had a much shorter time to work in the ACC. Virginia has never won an outright title only shared titles in 1989 and 1995. The lone invader in our midst was the 1969 title won by South Carolina (their last major title in anything until their 2010 CWS title).
What do you guys think? Has CPJ built the program up to where it can repeat as Coastal and ACC Champs?
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I am a GT fan first. Who knows who will win?
There are a lot of football games between now and then, and none have been played yet.
what a lame answer!
Better to have died a small boy than to drop this football - John HeismanFromTheRumbleSeat
by Winfield Featherston on Jul 19, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Blind speculation is probably the most important thing
you can do in the offseason.
I write stuff From the Rumble Seat.
It's the accurate answer
There’s no accurate way to predict the outcome of the season. What’s with the compulsion to make baseless predictions?
because we are killing time
why would one ever make predictions? I suppose we could just wait till the season is over and then talk about it but what fun is that? This is called anticipation.
by Atlanta's original team on Jul 20, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions
There's plenty to talk about
without making predictions. Predictions seem like such a waste of time. We may as well be arguing about what the lottery numbers are going to be tomorrow.
I'm not sure
We lost several stars and our schedule will be tough at the end there. If we get into the championship game, I like our chances. I just think it’ll be difficult to get into that game.
Also, statistically speaking, I’m more likely to be correct if I say someone else will win it. I hope I’m wrong.
If you say another team is going to win, you’re only statistically more likely to be correct if all teams have equal opportunity to win. If we consistently have the statistically better team on the field come kick off time, it doesn’t matter how many other teams are out there, you’re statistically better off saying we will win it.
We do not have the team we had last year, that is correct. But last year we didn’t have the team we had the year before that, and the year before that we didn’t have the team we had the prior year. The consistency comes from the coach who is willing to try new things to keep defenses guessing, continually make adjustments to better the approach, and make staffing changes where necessary to ensure progress on both sides of the ball. CPJ excels at all of these things.
We CAN win it this year. The question will come down to whether the team wants it as badly.
As long as they start the fight all over and don’t get complacent with having won it last year, it can be ours.
Yes, we can repeat
I have enough confidence in CPJ’s system to feel that it is, in engineering terms, elegant, repeatable and durable. I don’t think it is a “plug and play” offense, but as a system, it is able to bring us closer to where we want to be every November (beat the nadlickers and compete for the ACC) than any of the previous Coaches and systems.
Pre CPJ it was more about luck, injuries, and outstanding personnel (Calvin is a once in a generation kind of player) than it was about “a way of doing things that brings success-a system”.
Given that we seem to have a stronger force of the D side, I don’t think we will have to be the last team with the ball, or going for long 4th downs, to win a game (FSU, WFU).
While I felt that in 2009 we had a much better chance of the title than what the Jackets did in 2008 (a surprising level of success in CPJ’s first year), 2010 is more about bamboozling the rest of the ACC for the 3rd time, stiffening up on D, and see what happens with Running Back University (VA Tech).
Oh, and Clemmins hates us more than they hated Bowden in his last year, and brother that hate comes from down deep.
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Jul 19, 2010 11:26 AM EDT reply actions
depth needed
I agree. each year is a new set of challenges that both the coaches and players must make appropriate changes to stay competitive. Until we have depth at our vulnerable key playmaker positions (in CPJ style I’m referring to the O line – they make the blocks to get us yards!) we will have to roll with the punches. Hate is a powerful weapon – ask Yoda or Miami. I’m definately rooting for a repeat. Until we have depth, the reality points us towards a year or two of waiting to get back to a BCS bowl. My current prediction is in two to three years and we will be where we all want to be -part of a nat’l title conversation, not just an ACC cho repeat conversation.
by twojackets on Jul 19, 2010 3:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't disagree
but sometimes I think about it from a slightly different viewpoint. Let me explain and then give an example from a different sport.
You can put together a system and a winning tradition but that doesn’t mean you necessarily win the years that you have the best team or that you lose the years you have a slightly less complete team.
Now the example. Look at the years the Atlanta Braves made runs as Division Champs, the years they won the National League Pennant, and the single year they won The World Series. I would argue that the year they won the Series was not necessarily the best team out of all of those years. Things just broke right for them. Likewise, some years they never made it out of the playoffs but they might have been a better team than the team that eventually won the World Series.
I know this is a little bit of “apples and oranges” but my point is this. Yes, I would prefer Tech to get better in 2011 than they will be in 2010. But that doesn’t mean that everything won’t fall into place in 2010 and they end up national champs.
by Atlanta's original team on Jul 19, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Irony can be so ironic
The best Braves team on paper was the one that lost to the Kirby’s deep single (Grrrrrr) – and the time that they should have lost, Justice came through as the hero.
Getting back to the conversation at hand – your logic explains the core of being a collegite sports fan. I for one do not expect greatness each year (nor expect it). I’m excited for the direction of the program and look forward to continuing the run that started in 2008.
exactly
Kirby singles and Lonnie Smith makes a base running error, so the best team in Braves history loses the series. The Braves team that wins the series (to put it in college football terms) played a weak schedule and caught the other teams at just the right time.
So to repeat. The issue is not whether Tech is good enough to repeat as Champions. The question is not even do we think there are sufficient weaknesses or bumps in the schedule to keep them from repeating as Champions. The question is more ephemeral than that. It goes something like this, “Do you think the planets and the stars will come together again this year in some magical, unexpected way?”
To be a fan is by definition to be a little irrational.
by Atlanta's original team on Jul 20, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions
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