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First of all: DOOK and all their fans can screw themselves.  I hate all of you so much.  How'd football season go?  Go back to the country club.  You all suck.


Now that we have that out of the way I'm curious to hear all of your reactions to our performance in the ACC tournament.  I think we need to go beyond Bird's Hewitt Approval Poll below.  

Frankly, I can't say that I approve of the job Paul Hewitt is doing of coaching our players.  You all know why I think that: we turn the ball over, we can't run consistent offensive sets throughout an entire a game, we lose our man on defense all the time because we are switching all the time, and of course we can't run an inbounds play at all (see below).

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However, I will give CPH credit for motivating this team during the tournament.  The ESPN broadcasters (Shulman and Dicky V.) made the point that when speaking with Paul Hewitt before the game he stressed that this tournament was the biggest goal for the team this season.  And I commend him for setting that goal.  Paul Johnson and the football team set their #1 goal as winning the ACC last year.  From a fan's perspective, this is exactly what you want. 

With that being said, I am still appalled at the mistakes this team makes throughout a game.  The fact that we won 3 games in a row to get to the championship game amazes me.  25 turnovers against Maryland?  5 in the first 3 minutes of yesterdays game?  Countless scoring droughts and missed opportunities?  Absolutely ridiculous and inexcusable for a team with this caliber of talent, which leads me to my next point.

This team got to the championship game on its talent alone.  Yes, we did run some good sets at the start of the Maryland and NC State games to get the ball inside, but we couldn't sustain anything over the course of the entire game.  And during the game yesterday, DOOK was ready for us to pound the ball inside.  They fronted the post and exploited the biggest weakness of our perimeter players: making quick, and accurate entry passes into the post.  Once they took that away, we just had individuals (Favors, Bell, Miller, and Shumpert mainly) making plays to keep it close.  

Honestly, this team is just frustrating to watch.  We have all the talent in the world yet we are forced to still grind out victories over inferior teams because of a lack of quality coaching and game planning.  Coach Ratface even said that we are "the most athletic and talented team in the ACC."  Now when one of the greatest basketball coaches ever says that, wouldn't you think the team he is speaking about should whoop their opponents, or at least be considered a favorite?  

We need a change at the head coaching position.  Tech basketball may make a great run in the next couple weeks in the NCAA tournament, no doubt.  But next year we will be right back where we were last year and in 2005 with the losses of Favors, Lawal, Bell and as much as it pains me to say it, Zach Peacock.  There will be talent next year, but it will need excellent coaching and solid game planning if we are going to be successful.  With this coaching staff, we're never going to have that and it's just a fact.

I hate to focus on the negative with a big weekend coming up, but the facts need to be stated.  Dan Radakovich if you are reading this please know, the natives are restless on The Flats.  Please don't let this team's magnificent ACC tournament run fool you: we still have a very serious problem at the head coaching position.

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Still Much To Be Gained (Or Lost)

Like the AD said, the most important games of the season lie ahead and I think this NCAA Tournament will define the season.

IF Tech makes a run how many ills does it cure?
IF they get bounced in the first round is all the ACCT goodwill lost?

I don’t think GT needs to make a change at the head coaching position with the financial situation of the Ath. Dept or the economic condition of the country.

Look at this way. For as good as VT has been in the ACC the last 3 years they haven’t made the NCAAs once! I think Seth Greenberg is a great coach, but he hasn’t made the Tournament once in the last 3 years.

Where I do think a change needs to made is on the bench with the staff. Tech needs assistants who can teach basketball, especially to guards.

It is basically akin to changing coordinators in football and its time at Tech to do this.

by accsecblog on Mar 15, 2010 10:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed, while I am tired of Hewitt, he is an amazing recruiter and would hate to lost that aspect if he is gone. A great bench coach that can help coach up the players would be a huge win. I know so little about bball coaching to know if there is anyone out there that would be a great complement to Hewitt, other than stealing back the former coach from Siena with the coach in waiting promise they make in football now.

by FuzzyB17 on Mar 15, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

@accsecblog: We just added a new assistant coach this season, Darryl LaBarrie, who replaced Charlton Young. Yes, maybe we do need more than one new assistant, but one would hope that some fresh blood on the bench would bring about a change in the program. This hasn’t been the case in my opinion. Would another new assistant help? Possibly. But remember, the assistant has to operate within the culture created by the head coach, same as in football and baseball. Al Groh came in and is a fantastic coach, but he still needs to operate within Paul Johnson’s overall plan and the culture he has created at Grant Field.

I agree with your point about the financial situation of the Athletic Dept. But maybe DRad could take out the clause in Hewitt’s contract that gives him an automatic rollover every year. Wouldn’t that be a good start? Anyone with a $7 million buyout that rolls over every year until eternity is not going to be easily convinced to change. I know I wouldn’t be.

Yes Hewitt brings in the talent, but he doesn’t do enough with it. And don’t forget, assistants are just as crucial to the recruiting side as they are in game planning. I believe it was Charlton Young who was almost completely responsible for “stealing” Zach Peacock out of Miami.

by Tedward09 on Mar 15, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who hasn't been an amazing recruiter in Atlanta

its not like Cremins didn’t bring in talent. Do we really know that Hewitt is that much better of a recruiter than anyone else, or is it more attributable for coaching for a high-profile local school with a strong tradition of unloading talent to the NBA.

by Howell on Mar 15, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

You said it

You’ve got an ACC team in the ATL. That’s a substantial draw right there.

by CraigT on Mar 15, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't cure much

Are you really comparing our once proud program to Virginia Tech’s? A team that has only made the tournament eight times? A team that has made the sweet sixteen once? We’ve made the tournament twice as many times, and the sweet sixteen seven times more often. They’ve never made the final four. Seth Greenberg is nowhere near a great coach, I’d call him “decent” and even that is being generous.

If we are really resigning ourselves to comparisons with football schools that have made the tourney twice since 1986, then we might as well stick with Paul Hewitt until the end of eternity. Like Vandy never firing Bobby Johnson in football, I guess we should stick with Hewitt because we shouldn’t expect to ever go to bowl games or make the tournament.

For one, I’d prefer to win. From the mid 80s to the mid 90s we made the sweet sixteen almost every other year. Now we are content making the tournament almost every other year.

Here’s a simple comparison.

Coach A: 57.9% overall; 58.3% ACC
Coach B: 54.9 % overall; 41.9% ACC
Coach C: 58 % overall; 50% ACC
Coach D: 60.8 % overall; 44.6% ACC
Coach E: 54.7 % overall; 41.3% ACC
Coach F: 59.5 % overall; 44.5 % ACC
Coach G: 51.2% overall; 42.2 ACC

Coach A is Chan Gailey, Coach B is Paul Hewitt, Coach C is Seth Greenberg, Coach D is Oliver Purnell; and Coach E is Frank Haith; Coach F is Leonard Hamilton; Coach G is Dave Leitao

In short, Hewitt unfavorably compares to every coach except Haith and Leitao, and is about even with him. Have we really gotten to the point where we are content with a program that is worse than Maryland, Wake, Boston College, Virginia Tech, Clemson, FSU, but on par with Miami and Virginia? Moreover, Leitao was forced to resign after four years because of his record; why do we continue to put up with Hewitt?

I agree with you we need better assistant coaches, but this unfortunately isn’t like football because there are so many basketball teams out there (300+ D-I). Being an assistant coach in basketball is nowhere near the stepping stone it is in football. Great assistants are not easy to find and, instead, are usually homegrown (see, e.g., Duke).

by Howell on Mar 15, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

All great stats...

Here are some more…

Hewitt has underachieved when you look at his tenure and especially with his last five years. Without his contract, he would likely be gone after this year barring an NCAA run.

The AA is in serious financial hurt. The financial ramifications of firing Hewitt would be close to double his buyout because you would also have to pay a new coach. That would be 2 football coaches and 2 basketball coaches you are paying. Not to mention still paying for a stadium expansion.

And finally, where is the money going to come from to give Paul Johnson a raise when a Michigan or Texas A&M or LSU comes after him with $3.5 million plus per if you are on the hook for $8 or $9 million for guys not even coaching anymore?

Hewitt has done it before with better assistants. I think that is the best route for GT’s future as an Athletic Department.

And you yourself said Seth Greenberg wasn’t that good of a coach so I don’t see how we could be worse than VT. A lot easier to get a 58% overall winning percentage when you play one of the worst schedules in the country.

It is not as simple as wins or losses because of GT’s financial position.

by accsecblog on Mar 15, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Greenberg is 50% in the ACC to Hewitt’s 41.9%, which is actually greater than the difference between their overall winning percentage. In other words, we seem to play more cupcakes than Greenberg because the gap between Hewitt’s overall win % and his ACC win % is greater than that of Greenberg.

Moreover, what we pay CPJ is irrelevant. First of all, neither Michigan, Texas A&M, nor LSU are going to come knocking for CPJ. I think we really only need be concerned with Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas and/or Notre Dame.

Moreover, your examples don’t really make a lot of sense. A&M can’t afford what we can, Leach was only making 1.75 mil when he was fired and Tubberville is only making $1.5. If they could afford and/or wanted CPJ, you think they would have made a bona fide pass at him this past winter, when they actually had an opening.

If a school like LSU came calling, we couldn’t afford to keep CPJ. The max we can likely pay is $2.5 mil, given the size of our stadium and average attendance. Les Miles is making $3.8 mil, and they can definitely afford more. If a school like LSU or Oklahoma decided they wanted CPJ, they would get him – regardless of whether we fired CPH or not.

Maybe you are right that because of the money we should never fire Hewitt, and we’ll live on with a mediocre coach for eternity. Maybe Hewitt will get so embarrassed he’ll retire.

Regardless, the buyout on Gailey sunsets in two more years. At a mil a year its not too bad, but not great either. I think Hewitt’s is what, 7 mil over 4 or 5 years? At that rate, I’d imagine his job to legitimately come into jeopardy once we are done paying Gailey’s buyout, but enough may be enough after next season if we miss the tourney again.

by Howell on Mar 15, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

I have never said Hewitt should never be fired.

Just that right now is not the best time because of the financial situation at GTAA, the foreseable US economic future (how much will donations be increased in the next few years without a large recovery?), and he is still playing this season.

On Paul Johnson..
Auburn came after Johnson after his first year with a large offer. GT ponied up and gave him a raise after one year. But the raise didn’t really come close to the money Auburn offered him. But what if GT hadn’t given him a raise? We’ll never know because they did.

You are confusing Texas Tech with Texas A&M.

If he doesn’t make the Tournament next year then you he will very likely be gone because apathy will have for sure set in. Radakovich will be forced because bball revenue will likely fall below a positive P/L and that would add on to the mounting debt.

We’ll know by tomorrow either way.

by accsecblog on Mar 15, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, no

The cost of firing Hewitt is only the money paid to him. A coach is going to get paid no matter what, whether it’s him or his replacement. You can’t count both salaries as losses.

I believe tomorrow is the deadline for stopping the automatic renewal of Hewitt’s contract. If that is done, then every year the hit gets smaller.

Of course, if Al Groh is still here in a couple of years we’ll have to start paying him a real salary, since his Wahoo bucks will stop flowing.

by CraigT on Mar 15, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stopping Automatic Renewal

From the contract I’ve seen, stopping automatic renewal is not an option. If they decide to stop it the entire contract becomes void immediately and Hewitt is essentially fired, unless they somehow get him to voluntarily agree to a new contract without the automatic renewal clause. If you were Paul Hewitt, and given the option to walk away with $7 million (paid immediately), would you resign instead? Obviously to renegotiate out of that automatic renewal would cost us more salary over the next few years to make it worth it to Hewitt. Do we want to offer him a $2 million per year contract for 5 years to get out of this automatically renewing contract? Would anyone behappier if we new he would be gone in 5 years?

by EvDiggity on Mar 16, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I was thinking

Maybe a renegotiation is what was meant. Either way, I do think that they should attempt to renegotiate his contract. I just don’t see him agreeing to it.

"Big Ten can have this challenge. Duke loses, we all win..."
-Marcus Ginyard, G - UNC

by Jesse28 on Mar 16, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well said, Tedward

Hewitt seems able to do just enough to get his annual extension granted. Just enough doesn’t cut it.

by ee8384 on Mar 15, 2010 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I would be shocked if

Radakovich does not let the contract renew today.

Because if he doesn’t then he is essentially firing a coach who is in the NCAA Tournament before a game is ever played.

The extension will be revoked in a year where Tech does not make the Tourney. Maybe even the next time they don’t.

by accsecblog on Mar 16, 2010 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Hilarious

“The inability to inbound the ball in basketball is like not being able to snap it in football.”

So sad, yet so true.

"Big Ten can have this challenge. Duke loses, we all win..."
-Marcus Ginyard, G - UNC

by Jesse28 on Mar 16, 2010 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

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