What do you want me to say about basketball?
by BirdGT on Dec 8, 2010 11:01 AM EST
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Print1. GT is tied for 16th in total NBA Draft picks (7) with five other programs.
2. GT is tied for 33rd in total NCAA Tournament appearances (5) with thirteen other programs.
3. GT is tied for 32nd in total NCAA Tournament wins (7) with six other programs.
For most programs, these would be fairly decent signs of success. However, we're competing with teams from the ACC in the Spring not teams from Conference USA. Since Paul Hewitt has been at Tech...
1. GT is tied for 4th in ACC NBA Draft picks with Florida State.
2. GT is tied for 6th in ACC NCAA Tournament appearances with NC State.
3. GT is tied for 4th in ACC NCAA Tournament wins with BC and Wake.
Paul Hewitt has a winning record against only 3 ACC teams (FSU, Clemson, and UVA). The only active coaches left in the ACC with sub-0.500 records against Hewitt are Sidney Lowe (2-4) and Roy Williams (6-7). He's somehow managed a losing record against UGA (the 3rd worst SEC program all-time and the 4th worst SEC program during Hewitt's tenure). This also includes an overall record of 8-11 against SEC teams since 2000.
I don't really know what else there is to say about Hewitt. Our teams either stumble into the tournament averaging a 7 seed and a 2 and done situation or we're so bad we can't even make the postseason NIT. I don't know if it's a lack of emphasis on the regular season or a lack of ingame intensity or something along those lines. All I know is that postseason success directly correlates to seeding. Playing a sloppy regular season, receiving a low NCAA bid, and dropping out in the first couple of rounds is not an indicator of success but rather a birthright for middle tier ACC squads in the midst of elite basketball recruiting grounds. Elite ACC squads put together complete seasons and receive high NCAA bids. Personally, I think the current state of the program prevents Georgia Tech from ever receiving a high enough seed to win the whole thing. What do you all think?
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If I were D-Rad I’d start an emergency fund to get at least HALF the money to fire Hewitt. I told him he should start up a collection among students, I’m sure even the most strapped for cash would donate. My buddy actually had a pretty good suggestion the other day, we should just promote him to some job that’s all title and no power like “director of basketball operations” or something whether he wants it or not and then he’ll f’in leave!
Paul Johnson: not giving a crap about what you have to say since 1987.
So here is my unscientific reaction
When Hewitt was first hired I understood “his system” this way: He would recruit good athletes. He would get them highly conditioned so they could play full court pressure for an entire game. He would let them meld into an organic offensive unit, playing by instinct more than by rehearsing set plays and learning to feed off of the transition and solid defense. I thought this looked dangerous but daring. I thought this will be a team that always lives on the edge but will come up with some amazing wins. I gave his system the benefit of the doubt.
Now I just think it is a sloppy approach to basketball. Hewitt’s teams seem to always suffer from a lack of fundamentals. They don’t even act like they practice free throws. Rarely do I see them run an effective play in a clutch situation. It looks and feels like chaos to me.
by Atlanta's original team on Dec 8, 2010 12:39 PM EST reply actions
I will admit that this season
is better in terms of offensive execution and free throw shooting but we’re still losing when it comes to head-head coaching.
I write stuff From the Rumble Seat.
Yes turnovers are down and FT% is up.
Problem is 3P% is terrible both offensively and defensively.
We had a lot of open threes last night, just didn’t hit them. We basically played zone the entire night and they shot over it easily.
I've never
heard our team described so perfectly. I don’t know nearly as much about basketball as I do about football, but other teams always seem to know what they’re doing and we don’t.
by acedarney on Dec 9, 2010 11:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree with Bird
that there seems to be a lot more movement on offense this year. Guys are getting slightly better looks at times but it seems like when shit hits the fan, the entire team goes into panic mode. Iman tries to be the hero, Oliver will throw up some dumbass shot in the paint, and Mo Miller will do something stupid to cause a turnover.
Does anyone have a good explanation as to why we would drive for two instead of setting up a three with 11 seconds left? That still boggles my mind. And why take a timeout after that basket? Shouldn’t the players already know that they need to foul? And after the timeout, why did it still take two whole seconds to foul the guy after the inbound play?
Glen Rice and Shumpert are ballers. Oliver is a pretty good shooter. Daniel Miller is a solid rebounder. It’s unfortunate that these guys are not given a chance to win.
Yeah, Oliver showed no ability to shoot anything but a three that I have seen
His other moves were wild and ineffective
The whole appears to be less than the sum of the parts with this bunch. They have the skills and talent to be a middle of the road team in conference, but the early results suggest that this season will get very ugly.
by Joe Hamilton's Chauffeur on Dec 8, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
It is just so frustrating to watch
The stats do prove out that there is some reasonable level of success under Hewitt (although take out the one national title game run and see where the stats fall).
However, I am tired of watching what amounts to pickup games on the court year in and year out. There seems to be so little team basketball played. As someone mentioned it is often chaos on the floor because it seems there are so very few defined roles outlined for the players. When they can’t beat someone with their raw athletic abilities, they often don’t know how to break down an offense by moving the ball around as a unit. Movement off the ball is often non-existant (even at times this year with 4 guards on the floor). Hewitt is obviously a sharp guy in a lot of areas, but he cannot seem to get the kids to play as a team (which should be a primary requirement for someone at the college level). It gets really frustrating watch inferior athletic teams run circles around GT by playing team basketball rather than pickup street ball (Northwestern and Kenessaw state being the best two examples this year).
Go Jackets!, but something needs to change soon.
I would ignore Hewitt and talk about the players
Bird said this a bunch last year, but it is no fun as a fan to always be down on your team. This team has some potential to grow.
The only problem is that Hewitt does little to develop players.
He can bring in a lot of great players (almost) year in and year out, but he does little to send them on their way any better than when they got there.
I agree with you, they always look like they can grow and solidify into a unit. I just don’t see a lot happening that would lead me to believe that someone is making that a priority.
I’ve been telling my friends for a few years now, I really feel bad for the players that would go to GT to play basketball and become better basketball players. They will only get better if that’s what they each individually demand of themselves. I don’t blame a single one of the guys who left early and I tend to think that the one and done rule is really making a school like GT a one year layover. If that rule gets repealed by the NBA, you’ll see Hewitt’s program get really anemic really quickly.
Anyways, thanks for having me. I’ve seldom felt such passion to get on a forum and discuss GT sports, but I really feel for the school. We bought into something really promising years ago and it’s done nothing but be average when the terms of Hewitt’s contract are far beyond average.
Hewitt has got to go
Any competent coach could recruit great players to come to GT. It’s in the ACC and located in the heart of Atlanta. It’s painfully obvious that our success in 2003 was due to the assistant coaching staff, and not Hewitt. That is why once the assistants moved on, GT absolutely tanked.
The GT job is a great high profile job. There will be tons of great coaches lined up to take over for Hewitt. All we need to do, is call a spade a spade, and fire him.
We made the change in football and it resulted in a surge in fan support and an ACC championship. It’s time to make the move in basketball.
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