Sunday Morning Quick Thoughts Post Mortem
by BirdGT on Oct 24, 2010 1:23 AM EDT
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PrintFirst, the atmosphere of Clemson is great. There are a few A-hole rednecks but for the most part CU fans are fairly kind and usually apologize for any of their rude brethren. The Tiger band was surprisingly quiet. There were only two forms of music in the stadium: piped in speaker music and the GT band. Note to all fans making the trip to Clemson in 2012: Do not attempt to leave Clemson after a football game. The traffic is horrible. Imagine a small town with only 2 or 3 roads leading into town and 50,000 cars trying to leave said small town. That's Clemson after a football game. It took me about 45 minutes to go 2.4 miles. Can someone explain to me how Death Valley is noticeably louder than Sanford Stadium?
Offensively, we saw some bright spots from Orwin Smith and Anthony Allen. I think there's a small revelation amongst our coaching staff that Orwin can ball. We finally found our 2010 feature A-Back. Allen really had some nice runs tonight despite the loss. Orwin has the hands that we need at A-Back. If there was one offensive highlight that I'd pick out to watch again, it was the total beasting Allen put on Tig Willard for a 29 yard reception.
Defensively, we really struggled against the run. Take out Kyle Parker and Clemson averaged around 6.5 yards per carry. Ellington averaged almost a first down per carry. He had 7 first downs or TD's out of 22 touches. We knew our pass defense was kinda shakey but now we know we're in the midst of rerebuilding defensive season.
The other thing I thought was interesting was tonight had a lot of What Ifs going on during the game. The first penalty we picked up on the roughing the kicker really shifted some momentum as Clemson scored a 55 yard TD following the penalty. We should've not "roughed" the kicker but what if... Either way, I was happy we weren't down 21-0 in the first quarter.
A lot of us in my section felt like the trick plays and tom-foolery on display tonight kinda meant we were pulling out all the stops to win. It also kinda looked like we were having trouble finding the big play in our conventional offense. I think it's an indicator of how our season has unfurled.
Also, I checked a weird rule out because I remember seeing the wide receiver pass to the QB play in the NFL before. The Eagles tried to run it with Donovan McNabb a few years back. McNabb was nailed during the play and they threw a pass interference flag but picked it up after conferring with the back judge. In the NFL, QB's under center are ineligible. However, I checked it out and college QB's are always eligible under center or in the shotgun. Reggie and Bilbo ran a similar play back in 2006.
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Traffic
Most people just hang around their tailgates for another hour or two before trying to fight traffic. That usually helps a lot. If you think it was bad yesterday, you should see it after a night game, or ten years back before they widened most of the roads leading out from two to four lanes.
maybe bc I had such a high view, i could watch plays develop more
But I had never seen our defensive line get pushed around like that before. They were treated like total ragdolls.
Better to have died a small boy than to drop this football - John HeismanFromTheRumbleSeat
by Winfield Featherston on Oct 24, 2010 2:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
It is the offense that bothers me more week in and week out
When was the last time Tech failed to score a rushing touchdown against an ACC team?
by Atlanta's original team on Oct 25, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
on defense
we had two defenders who by my observation accounted for 21 of Clemson’s points. One defensive back was left naked in space because an OLB was way out of position. Another defensive back gave up two huge plays because he arm tackled practically the whole game.
Anyway, these two defensive players made everyone else look even worse than they were.
by Atlanta's original team on Oct 25, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
before this season it was 2007 VT/UNC
This season we haven’t scored Rushing TD’s twice (Wake/CU).
I write stuff From the Rumble Seat.
so what’s wrong with this picture?
by Atlanta's original team on Oct 25, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Question
Did Clemson key on stopping QBJN to protect Dantzler’s record? It certainly looked like they decided that the QB position would NOT get yards.
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Oct 24, 2010 2:40 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t think it was to keep him from getting the record. He’s been the offense’s bread and butter all year. They were locked in on him but it was probably because they knew he’s the best player on offense. Seems like the logic was stop Nesbit on the ground and stop the entire offense.
by iamafirehazard on Oct 24, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
granted
if you stop Nesbitt that takes away an important part of our offense but it shouldnt matter cause we have 4 other options to get yards: throw, 2 ABs, 1 BB…. From what i have noticed it has been take away our so called passing game and you take away our run…. If we cant establish the pass (cough* catch the ball with your hands S.Hill not ur facemask*cough) then the opposing defenses don’t have to worry about our passing game. They just need to focus on stopping the run.
This is my Family Tradition
by The_GT_LineageX11 on Oct 24, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
bench him
I don’t generally agree with benching guys for poor play, but Stephen Hill needs to be sat out. Nesbitt has been putting up some genuinely great passes in his direction, and Hill looks like a kid who’s never played the position before. If the ball hits you in the face, it is a perfectly thrown ball… put your damn hands up and catch it. He is doing more hurt than good, and he needs to be sat out at least for a game. Orwin Smith and AA bothed showed good hands. Corey Earls has caught more passes. Hell, put Lyons out wide and let him catch a ball. He needs to be sat out.
Speaking of Lyons
That’s another player I’d like to see get more PT. He hits the hole hard and fast.
"Everybody talks about SEC speed. The 27 fastest guys at the (NFL) combine, how many of them were from the SEC? Three. But if you say it enough, everybody will believe it."
-CPJ
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
is it just me or
does it seem like Nesbitt is trying to do too much himself…. I understand that he is
the offense’s bread and butterbut it just seems like hes trying to do way too much himself. It seems like with all the dark horse heisman candidate hype in the pre-season that Nesbitt was and still is trying to help his cause… seems like this year instead of pitching the ball, he cuts to the inside and gets two or three yards… has anybody else noticed this?
This is my Family Tradition
by The_GT_LineageX11 on Oct 24, 2010 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
I've noticed such.
For the first two years of CPJ’s offense, even my dad (a raised "U"GA fan) said that it was always the Josh Nesbitt Show in short yardage situations. My response was always “as long as it works, I don’t care.” Lately, though it’s a bad idea. He’s the player on the field with a star underneath his feet (see also: EA Sports NCAA Football) so every team is going to be gunning for him. Sound familiar? Why do you think Dwyer had such a stellar 2008 season and was substantially less explosive in ’09? Every team was focused on stopping the dive. After the ’08 season, all you heard was how amazing Jon Dwyer was when he got the ball. All the attention made him the target in ’09. As a result, Nesbitt ended up with a LOT of big plays in ’09 since Dwyer was targeted for getting shut down. Now Joshua himself is the target. People have been and will continue to be gunning for him for the duration of this season.
On a side note, YES, the lack of a passing game is really really hurting us. If we can’t punish defenses for selling out for the run, then we’re the ones receiving the punishment. It’s not just that Nesbitt has less than stellar accuracy, etc. BeBe actually WENT AFTER the ball as a receiver should do. It seems now that we’re having trouble reeling in the ones that hit us in the hands. I submit that Nesbitt’s accuracy has improved somewhat and his power has SUBSTANTIALLY improved. His first few seasons, passes were dead ducks floating haplessly; this year I see vapor around the ball where the atmosphere is in rapid depression.
I’ve always given CPJ my full support because of his history: success everywhere he’s been. Typically, his tenure at a location only improves with time (see also: Navy) where their first season was awful, but saw instant turnarounds over the remainder of his time there. With our ’08 season being as successful as it was, I had very very high expectations for ’09 and ’10- with Top 10 rankings involved. Perhaps too much…
All in all, I am a full supporter of my alma mater as opposed to those God-awful fair weather fans. However, I’m also a realist. In retrospect, it seems I should’ve known to be worried following the Kansas game. The win over the Tar Heels gave me a renewed hope following all the hype surrounding how good UNC was alleged to be. (Especially considering their performance VS Emperor Miles I) At this point, I’m looking to salvage the remainder of this re-rebuilding season. It seems that installing a revamped defense while losing several stud players can have quite the negative impact.
P.S. I want more Bostic on my TV. And perhaps I shouldn’t be so long-winded.
THWG!
While I really do like Bostic
I really haven’t seen him make as much of an impact as Orwin Smith has. Regardless, I like them both and I want to see more of them.
"Everybody talks about SEC speed. The 27 fastest guys at the (NFL) combine, how many of them were from the SEC? Three. But if you say it enough, everybody will believe it."
-CPJ
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
i second jesse
i want more Orwin
This is my Family Tradition
by The_GT_LineageX11 on Oct 25, 2010 10:36 AM EDT reply actions
Orwin has done well,
but I can see a lot of passion and drive in Bostic that we need from fresh recruits. With good fortune in health, I forsee Bostic busting it up in open space. Orwin has been a pleasant surprise and yes I’d like to see him get more touches and honestly, some more receptions.
THWG!
This is exactly how I felt about Smith last season
I thought he needed to be moved up the chart from strictly returns to A-Back play. I see Bostic in that position right now. It’s probably just a depth chart issue.
But I completely agree about Orwin needing to be used more in the passing game. So far he has shown that he has great hands and the ability to make something happen after the catch.
"Everybody talks about SEC speed. The 27 fastest guys at the (NFL) combine, how many of them were from the SEC? Three. But if you say it enough, everybody will believe it."
-CPJ
"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.
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