Iowa post game open thread
by BirdGT on Jan 6, 2010 8:12 AM EST
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PrintThat sucked. Here's another open thread for anyone that didn't get their two cents in last night. Originality and game-related comments please. Intelligence not necessarily required but encouraged. Please keep obscenities, slurs, and profanity to a minimum.
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Not to get chippy
But I was really surprised by the game last night. Despite everything, I was petrified of y’all’s offense and thought GT would come out to play. Instead, the only thing that kept Tech’s offense in the game, was Iowa’s offense, specifically Stanzi. Anyway, it’s been a blast over the past month, wish y’all the best next year, except against Georgia (sorry, the gf is a UGA alum, and my first priority is to keep her happy).
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
About half way through the season
I drank Jesse’s kool-aid…
…but the last two games of the season really reminded me of what its like to be a Tech football fan. In a way, its kind of like being a country music fan (I’m not hating, I like country music—see the Random 10 Fridays from middle 2009). A country song can be fun, upbeat, happy…hell, maybe you could even dance to it. However, in the end, you know that something bad is going to happen.
I shall be returning to the old GT-fan me as of this date. Dont get me wrong, I love the Jackets more than anyone in White and Gold, but I shall be pessimistic up until the point that we are in the victory formation in the NC game next year.
Can we agree to never….EVER….have any shade or form of blue on our uniforms again? There’s a trend here…
Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...
Yeah
Sorry about that Chris, I clearly tried drowning myself in the kool-aid through the season. Last night was a double does of reality as it relates to GT and major sports. It’s the same in baseball, every year loaded with talent and every year we get bounced in the super’s. All three sports put out major talent to their respective pro level’s yet it always feels like wasted talent while they are here.
Nomar, Brooking, CJ, Weiters, Bosh, Jack, etc, etc.
"Big Ten can have this challenge. Duke loses, we all win..."
-Marcus Ginyard, G - UNC
well...
I’d say hoops and baseball are the underachievers of our three major sports. Compared to the rest of the ACC, we’re a middler in producing NFL-talent but we’re top 3 in ACC win % behind FSU/VT, I believe without looking it up.
You are a sad, strange little man, and you have my pity.
I see what you're saying
But even in football we still put out plenty of players who play in the NFL, maybe not on the level of the other two sports, but the numbers are enough to justify my comment. My overall point is that each year in all three sports, we always crap out at the end of the season. Who cares if we have a high winning percentage if we can’t win our bowls games, can’t get out of the super’s, and can’t make the semi’s or final’s?
I like that we are winning more game with CPJ than with Gailey, but if we constantly lose to uga and lose our bowl games, are we any better off? Imo, no.
"Big Ten can have this challenge. Duke loses, we all win..."
-Marcus Ginyard, G - UNC
It's gonna be okay Dude...
…GT will be fine next year. You guys have a stellar offense, and the D seems to be improving. Yeah, you’ll lose a few players, but you’ll have talent coming in too. Seriously, the Hawks personnel just played into the matchup, but a lot of teams will be confounded by that offense (if you get a better “QB” in there who can throw more accurately and keep defenses honest you’ll be very tough for anyone you play- – don’t get me wrong, Nesbitt is a beast, but he’s also a building block). Great game, and good luck next year.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 6, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I know
But it’s more than the singular event, it’s a program wide thing. Every year, Tech fans go into each sports season (well most at least) saying, “This should be better, we are gonna win something big now.” Yet, each season there’s no payoff. When you read people talking about that ‘typical Tech feeling’, that’s what I’m talking about. We come away from losses thinking that it’s par for the course.
The kool aid Chris and I are referencing is the one I tried pouring into everyone’s cup early this season. I really felt like things were changing and that the attitude of fans should change with it. Yes, I understand we are better than when Gailey was around. For once, we have a team and a coach that doesn’t give up at half time. But, with that comes a higher expectation and I thought that maybe we would finally be at a place where we could no longer feel like a loss is par for the course.
Think of it this way, we are the Ohio State of the south. We win a lot of games, win a bunch of important games during the year, but never come away with the big one at the end.
And yes, I’m venting the frustration of a double loss on one night.
"Big Ten can have this challenge. Duke loses, we all win..."
-Marcus Ginyard, G - UNC
Blue is o.k. with me but . . .
The last time Ga Tech won a national championship they played regularly in blue uniforms including their decisive bowl victory over Nebraska.
My problem is that (and I am inviting anyone to talk me out of this negative spiral) Tech’s spread option seems to work best when the timing is sharp and crisp. I have only worried about three games this year prior to kick off. The first was Miami because Tech was playing its 3rd game in 12 days and I was worried about them being tired and sluggish. Little did I know they would also be playing on concrete.
The other two that I worried about were Georgia and Iowa because in both cases I felt like the offense had been humming like a well oiled machine only to suddenly let it sit idle for a prelonged time leading up to a critical game. As with LSU last year I do not fear teams having a long time to prepare for Tech, I fear Tech loosing the edge that is so decisive for this system to work.
On last night’s debacle I actually felt like the defense played better than expected and certainly well enough for Tech to win. It was an out of synch offense that let the Jackets down.
Finally on a philosophical note who ever would have guessed a couple of years ago that we would be disappointed with an 11-3 record. CPJ should be congratulated on a job well done.
by Atlanta's original team on Jan 6, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good call
who ever would have guessed a couple of years ago that we would be disappointed with an 11-3 record
Sometimes it is easy to lose sight of the bigger picture during an emotional moment. You are so right though. A few years ago, any of us would have been happy with just eight wins. How quick expectations change.
"Big Ten can have this challenge. Duke loses, we all win..."
-Marcus Ginyard, G - UNC
It's all a matter of perspective.
Overall, GT had a great season. Last night GT had a lousy game.
by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Jan 6, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
So Bird...
Still believe Captain Kirk is suspect at preparing his team for bowl games? Or were 14 points right out the gate for our offense and 32 total offensive yards for yours not enough data points? Was that nauseated feeling in your gut you experienced while Adrian Clayborn was smashing your o-line and backfield statistically significant?
Ha ha ha ha HA HA made you eat your parents!
Keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either, Dude.
by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Jan 6, 2010 9:38 AM EST reply actions
I enjoyed...
…the role of de facto villain for the Hawkeye fan base. It was an active past few weeks on FTRS. Now, I am preparing myself to endure basketball season. Hopefully, both teams will be in BCS bowls again next year.
You are a sad, strange little man, and you have my pity.
hey
they were outscoring the football team when both when to half at the same time
15 to 14
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
a roll you filled quite nicely
luckily internet hate is fleeting. Thanks for being gracious hosts to us.
We’ll leave StoopsMyAss as the provisional authority as you rebuild your shattered dreams. I think I might have left my cell phone in the backseat of the Wreck, could you check for me? kthxbi
Keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either, Dude.
by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Jan 6, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
Hey enjoyed it!
I like Johnson a lot and hope he learns how to win a bowl game or one where teams have time to prep for him. You return tons of talent, so hope to see you in the Big One next year. Our goals are set. With Clayborn back we are looking to win the NFC North, and then on to the playoffs! Thanks for having us!
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
Where to start....
I love PJ, let me start with that, but there are a few things that I don’t understand:
1) The last 4 plays of the UGA game.
2) Why did we not try to pitch more earlier last night. The first 3 times we did it, we got 9+ yards. Yet we only did it 4 or 5 times the whole game.
On last nights debacle. The whole team seemed to come out flat imho. I don’t know if Nesbitt was rattled or what. When they’d show his eyes, something seemed off. But it’s a mystery.
Iowa dominated us and we still had a chance to win it, but I hated to see this formula:
First play: dive
Second play: QB sneak
Third play: try to pass, get sacked or incomplete
Fourth play: punt
That seemed to be our whole first half. That’s most of my rant I believe.
Not to take away from Iowa, they did what they had to at the end of the game to squash our momentum and preserve the win. It’s just hard to swallow.
We were taking the pitch away
Its called good defense. Nesbitt has ran the option very well all year. He knows what is there and what isn’t. When you have a good defense where everyone does their job (and sheds the initial blocker), every play will come down to at least a one on one battle. And ur guys tackle. That is one thing the big ten does better than any other conference; we tackle.
So its not as easy as “doing the pitch more”
We took it away.
Good luck next season!
Parker created sepcial D-line plays
On some plays the tackles crashed down and others they faked the crash and turned to go wide. Only once did I see it backfire, when Clayborn did it and a straight pitch was called. It totally freaked out Nesbitt who couldn’t trust his reads. He was sincerely worried about pitch plays being intercepted I believe. The thing that makes you so dangerous is that you NEVER fumble or make bad pitches. I believe CPJ drills into Nesbitt to always be certain. Thus, no wide plays early.
It was a brilliant defensive scheme and I expect the entire ACC to mimick it next year. Audibles along the D-line to create havoc. Just brilliant. But, Johnson is super smart and will weave some stuff in there to beat that back. It also helped that our guys were bigger and faster (ala Clayborn). At the end of the day, we paid no regard to your pass, and until CPJ can really develop a more precise passing game, big, fast teams who mostly sell out will be a problem.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
by StoopsMyAss on Jan 6, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I saw that w/r/t ignoring the pass
And you guys were right in doing so. I saw early on that the corners were just ignoring the WR’s, not even attempting to run with them, and that plus the stellar shedding of up-front blocking allowed your defense to have many more players available to make a stop out on the option than was normal. I commented early to my wife that we CPJ needed to make an adjustment quick or we were going to be in for a hurting. I think he waited until the second half to make a blocking adjustment. Too late imo.
"Big Ten can have this challenge. Duke loses, we all win..."
-Marcus Ginyard, G - UNC
Re: the pitch
I thought the same thing. The pitch was generally successful (vs Iowa and UGA), but was seldom employed. Maybe PJ was only using it to set up the dive, as seemed to happen in the two good drives in the second half. Maybe he thought that Dwyer needed the rock, and that talent > scheme, but that doesn’t sound right. Iowa certainly played lights-out, and Nesbitt had a weak outing, but play selection befuddled me.
Both Iowa and UGA maxed out to take away the dive on first down. Both have good interior lineman, and were generally successful, but the dives kept coming. When Tech got away from the dive, it was to pass on first down, not to run the option down the line. Nesbitt didn’t get it done with his arm.
I won’t pretend to understand option football, but it looks like the blueprint to beating Tech this year began and ended with “stop the dive.” Who knows? Maybe losing Dwyer will make Tech less reliant on the dive and more likely to pitch, a kind of “addition by subtraction.”
[It looks like StoopsMyAss is smarter than me ’bout this stuff]
by first and thom on Jan 6, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed on the play selection
I commented as such in the game thread that something seemed off about the play calling in this game. And as mentioned above, I really think it all began during the uga game. Of all the games, one would think that going up against Iowa’s defense would dictate that sticking to the original gameplan would be best.
"Big Ten can have this challenge. Duke loses, we all win..."
-Marcus Ginyard, G - UNC
Dwyer vs Anthony Allen
I am not super knowledgeable in option football either, but off the top of my head would we consider Anthony Allen at B back and then put Roddy at wing back for 2010? If Dwyer leaves, I think AA would be a pretty good fit to take over and provide pretty good running.
Interesting
Allen is large enough to play B-back, but I think he fits the A-Back position better because it allows him to receive the ball at almost full speed. I think Dwyer just has a better initial burst at the line than Allen.
Also, Roddy already plays the A-back position, but hasn’t been starting for reasons unknown to me with the exception of the bowl game and a few others. Early in the season he had a wrist injury and missed some time because of it, but Peeples just should not be starting over Jones.
"Big Ten can have this challenge. Duke loses, we all win..."
-Marcus Ginyard, G - UNC
" I don’t know if Nesbitt was rattled or what. When they’d show his eyes, something seemed off. But it’s a mystery."
It isn’t a mystery at all. It is Adrian Clayborn. He has spent this whole season getting into the heads of opposing QBs. It’s some sort of voodoo – they start seeing him everywhere. Just before the half you could see it clearly as Clayborn burst past whatever poor soul was set at LG. Nesbit sees Clayborn coming and literally turns around and runs the other way! He stops after just a few steps only to turn around and find that Clayborn is already right there….you know what happens after that.
QBs start seeing Clayborn everywhere they turn – he gets in their head and they start reacting to pressure that isn’t even there. Though it usually doesn’t happen until the second half. I’m thinking Nesbit simply watched too much film of Clayborn – who knows. But Nesbit was acting just like so many other QBs this year who have had an accute case of Claybornitis.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Jan 6, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Bitchmade
It’s why we created the term for the defense this season. It sums up our entire defensive strategy. Clayborn is the catylist of this strategy, but the rest of the D makes it work. He’s just a scary, scary dude that should be playing on Sundays (thank god he’s putting that off a year)
After I
rewatched most of the option plays, Nesbitt was holding onto the ball too long before deciding to pitch. It seemed like less of a read and more of a “well nothing’s there, here’s the ball it’s your problem now.” On the play Dwyer tried to reverse field, he was literally almost flatfooted sitting there waiting for the pitch. It’s hard for playmakers to get going when you let the entire pursuit get off the initial cut blocks.
On a related note, holy balls where was BEBE last night?!?! and (make sure you haven’t eaten for 2 hours before watching the replay) on the late interception, I’ll give $50 to the person that can show me a freeze frame of 1/10 of 1 second that Peeples was open. 6’4" receiver streaking down the sidelines with nobody within 15 yards of him and a knack for going up and getting the ball or a 5’8" B-Back who has probably 4 catches on the year.
Shit.
Are you a LION or a GAZELLE?
check that, Peeples is an A-back. I forgot because he didn't get to draw on the glass in the pregame offensive explanation
Are you a LION or a GAZELLE?
yeah the A-backs
haven’t caught many passes thrown their way this year. Stephen Hill and Bay Bay didn’t get nearly enough looks whether it was simple screens or play action or anything.
You are a sad, strange little man, and you have my pity.
I think we actually threw to WR's three times
…
You are a sad, strange little man, and you have my pity.
Aw yes, I remember this feeling
Trying to find my car after leaving the stadium, that same old Georgia Tech fan feeling lingered over my head. Somehow I was not upset, having been in this situation many times. I still want to congratulate our boys on a great season. Although the bowl curse is still ongoing, we at least accomplished some new “firsts”. I guess you could consider winning the ACC kinda like winning a bowl game so maybe we are getting a little closer.
I’m interested in hearing what all of ya’ll think our goals should be next year. What does everyone (realistically) want to see happen? I personally can handle another bowl let-down if it means beating UGA and defending our ACC title.
Finally, I would like to thank the Iowa fans. Although ya’ll took over the blog over the past few weeks, you are a great fan base. As expected you traveled big. We were surrounded by Iowa fans in club level on the GT side. All of which were polite and cheered on their team the ways fans should and pretty much left us alone. You all really gained some of my respect.
by Yellow Jackette on Jan 6, 2010 11:24 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'd say it all depends
Who all leaves and who all stays will have a big impact on our team next year. Dwyer, Bey-Bey, Morgan, and Burnett are all of our top performers. Much like this past transition, that’s a lot of talent that could be lost.
But, if I had to take an early shot at it, I’d say that winning the ACC and beating uga would be the top two items on our to-do list.
"Big Ten can have this challenge. Duke loses, we all win..."
-Marcus Ginyard, G - UNC
Goal for next year?
Beg, borrow, or steal a passing game.
by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Jan 6, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
No way, imo
Goal for next year has to be to upgrade the defense on all levels…especially the defensive schemes.
Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...
I dunno...
IMO it’s very difficult to win games going 2-9 passing the ball. Especially when the deadly triple-option attack of the ninjas is stopped cold and you’re looking at a 3rd and 8 or 3rd and 15.
by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Jan 6, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
I think
We hit a TON of goals this year…we won the ACC, made a BCS game, beat the Hokies at home, had two thousand yard rushers…hey, it was a GREAT year.
However, realistically…if we had a defense that could play at all, we would have beat UGA and Iowa pretty easily, imo. The Miami game is a different story, we got dominated in every way. Upgrading the defense will put us where we want to be…with that being said:
If we have this season again next year but a defensive upgrade allows us to beat UGA and/or win our BCS bowl game, I’d consider it a success. NC would be an unrealistic goal at this point, I think.
Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...
Have you seen the box score?
You punted 6 times…in the first half. You had 32 yards rushing in the first half. We outrushed you. We out passed you. We outscored you, even giving you a score (we both fucked up FGs), we hustled you, we out schemed you, we out TOP’d you. You did squat on punt returns and kick off returns. We were faster (our QB outran you all world DE with a bum ankle).
It was thorough. It wasn’t an accident. These teams could play another thirty times and I just see Iowa not fumbling and pick sixing it’s way to a romp.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
You had one first down
in the first half.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
I'm not taking anything away from you at all
You’re so dang defensive…
But when the game was 17-14 and we had the ball with 9 minutes left, that game could have gone either way. At that particular point in the game, it wasnt an amazing play by Iowa’s defense that created that interception—-it was a bad throw on a bad read by our QB. Period. That’s nothing that Iowa did—that’s a GT mistake…The reason we were throwing is because our defense couldnt make a stop—then we wouldnt have been throwing in the first place.
Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...
I thought Tech was going to win with 9:00 minutes left
…but that was in spite of the game up to that point, not because of it. Iowa did not translate yards into points. Tech wasn’t getting the yards. Usually, it takes yards to get points, but Tech got a defensive score that kept things close enough to be in a position to win it near the end.
It’s a credit to Tech’s undeniable explosiveness that Tech seemed to be in driving to win, not a credit to how well Tech played up to that point. We all thought that Dwyer would break The Big One that had eluded him.
Heck, TX A&M got more yards and first downs than UGA in the Independence Bowl, but UGA won by 24 (and that includes a garbage time touchdown by A&M – UGA put in the walk-ons up 30). That’s what 3 special teams touchdowns (well, one with two additional short fields) will do for you.
by first and thom on Jan 6, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
When Iowa was up 3 with 9 minutes left
and laid before the viewing world was over half a game of evidence that Iowa was the superior team in the extreme, one would need to be overwhelmingly subjectively predisposed to think that Georgia Tech was going to win that game. They had two plays all night over 10 yards, Iowa had that on its second drive of the game. Georgia Tech was deep in their own territory and unlikely to drive the ball for 9 minutes (which explains why the coach abandoned the run at that moment as the “option” had ceased to exist. The only success was on straight toss plays) and close out the game with Iowa possessing three time outs. Tech was withering on defense as was proven in the final Iowa drive.
Sure, anything could have happened, a whaky play a busted this or that. But, Tech was never the threat that could lead one to believe they were going to win. Score? Long shot, but maybe. win the game? Hardly.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
And another thing...
…what do you guys think of the state of football in the ACC?
After watching us run (mostly) wild through our ACC schedule only to flop against SEC and Big 10 mediocrity, I have to question the ACC. On top of that, flop on a little ACC bowl floppage and…
Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...
ACC BCS OOC (including bowls)
ACC #1 (GT) defeated SEC #7, SEC #12
ACC #1 lost to SEC #4, Big 10 #2
ACC #2 (CU) defeated SEC #7
ACC #2 lost to MWC #1, SEC #7
ACC #3 (VT) defeated SEC #4, Big 12 #2
ACC #3 lost to SEC #1
ACC #4 (UM) defeated Big 12 #4, Big East #4
ACC #4 lost to Big 10 #4
ACC #4 (BC) lost to ND, Pac 10 #5
ACC #6 (UNC) defeated Big East #4
ACC #6 lost to Big East #2
ACC #6 (FSU) defeated MWC #2, Big East #2
ACC #6 lost to SEC #2, Big East #4
ACC #8 (WFU) defeated Pac 10 #2
ACC #8 lost to Big 12 #11
ACC #8 (DU) lost to Big 12 #11
ACC #10 (UVA) defeated Big 10 #11
ACC #10 lost to MWC #1
ACC #10 (NCSU) defeated Big East #2
ACC #10 lost to SEC #7
ACC #12 (MD) lost to Pac 10 #5, Big East #4
Overall 13-17 OOC. Someone let me know if I missed a game. Looks like this order as far as I’m concerned: SEC>Big 10>ACC>Big 12>Pac 10=MWC>Big East
You are a sad, strange little man, and you have my pity.
Mediocrity, huh?
Well, then I guess that says the ACC champs are worst than a mediocre Big Ten team. C’mon, give yourselves the credit you deserve. The ACC has some good teams, and you are the top, but when they match up against bigger, more physical teams like those found in the Big Ten, you struggle. Plain and simple, and it gives all credit where credit is due.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 6, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
I think in five years
people will look back at the Big Ten defensive linemen playing this year and marvel. At least 7 are first round draft choices. We have one and the rest of our D-line is filled with guys who played WR and track in H.S.
G Tech did not and will not see another D-line with the combo of strength and speed that Iowa had this year. And next year we will be off the charts as they all come back and we have two guys on the bench who are potential starss. Our offense was MUCH more mistake prone than any other BCS offense this year. Yet we win 11 games and a BCS game. We had a pick 6 and a first drive fumble and won comfortably. I see that changing next year. I see a much more mature offense and getting back all our injured Offensive weapons will be nice (Chaney, Hampton, etc.) Getting Jewel back healthy we should be as much a NC contender as anyone. Imagine Iowa throwing bombs and running the ball down people’s throat while utterly dominating on defense.
G Tech is good. Vegas said they were a 6 point favorite. They would have beaten Boise, TCU, Oregon, and Cinncy in all liklihood. Ohio State is just like us. Florida would be a tall order and Bama is like us. Texas is the wild card. I think they can be awful and good. We’ll see.
Football is a gmae of match-ups.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
Yeah, we won, but I wouldn't call it fuzzy sweater/snuggie on the couch comfortable.
I was gripping in the 4th when GT got the ball with 9:00 minutes to go. Without the offensive mistakes, it would have been comfortable going into the 4th quarter. The last couple minutes of the game were comfortable, fun, and downright beautiful.
by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Jan 6, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
I'm more than comfortable with these Johnny Rebs keeping the "Big Ten is Mediocre" blinders firmly in place.
It makes the reality check that much more demoralizing for them (and entertaining for us).
Congrats on a great season, Yellow Jackets. Even though it was never really allowed to find a groove last night (save that one TD drive – and it was gorgeous), that offense is scary. The very best of luck next season and beyond.
Bully football is winning football.
by Bucketochicken on Jan 6, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry; that first part sounds a bit dickish.
Bully football is winning football.
by Bucketochicken on Jan 6, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
The eagle faces south...
on the capital building in Jackson, MS. Just a subtle reminder. Jackson was gutted in the War Between the States also. The only antebellum homes saved from the torch were the Yankee sympathizers. Toured one year’s ago when I was in Jackson on business – killing time before the flight out.
by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Jan 6, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
That's kinda what I was getting at, sir.
Maybe the ACC is so bad that the champions cant even beat an average Iowa team.
Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...
What makes Iowa average?
Their win over Penn State, at Penn State (who beat LSU)?
Their win over Arizona, who beat USC at USC?
Their overtime loss with a redshirt back-up QB at Ohio State, who humiliated Oregon?
Their destruction of Iowa State, a bowl winner?
Iowa will be ranked #6 when all is said and done, and that is about right. Although I know they would destroy Boise who will be ranked ahead of them.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
Their win
at Wisconsin who annihilated Miami, who annihilated G Tech?
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
I 95 rant
Rant on the drive back. I-95 is a blast!
We still look like we ate too much turkey and took off a week/month at the wrong time.
Did their 1,500 of beef look a little blown by the end of Q3? I thought 42 degrees was in their wheel house.
Pro stadiums stink and rock:
1. You are 100 yards from the field even in the best seats.
2. They put in $ Bazillion Jumbo-trons because you can’t see anything from that far away. I look forward to getting back to the friendly confines with SITE LINES.
3. Ramps rule. If you can play Formula Drift with two 18 wheelers down the ramps, you can move the fans in and out very nicely.
4. Tradition in the Pros is tearing down the old stadium where you made your name, and putting up big billboards of the "name brand" guys who made your franchise must satisfy-again, I’ll wait for the friendly confines (with a century’s history)
5. Individual urinals? How about some 50 foot long troughs so I can get back for Kool and the Gang (more later).
IOWA- as my friends from Nebraska, Illinois, Indiana, etc say, "Idiots Out Wandering Aimlessly"
1. They booed our band! I don’t even remember georgie booing another team’s band. Listen, these guys don’t get scholarships, etc. I applauded their band, they were good, but other than Thriller I didn’t get any real College Football vibe. I figured with a good Lib Arts School they’d have some excellent players on schollys.
2. NOT SMOKING IN THE SEATING AREAS MEANS YOU, YES EVEN IF YOU WEAR YELLOW AND BLACK.
3. "Let’s go Hawkeyes" was about the extent of what I heard from them. No "Differentials Y Differentials X…. Though I should look for Bobby Petrino because it came out sounding like HOGS, not Hawks.
4. Welcome to sunny Florida. Two weeks away from whatever you do in IOWA in January doesn’t entitle you to drive like Florida drivers. You know, those half blind and deaf Flori-ditis who’s idea of safe driving is raise their Liability Insurance to $1.5 mm so they lawyers won’t get EVERYTHING when they run over a crowd on the corner because they CAN’T DRIVE. Florida resident honestly said they thought South Beach needed an inoculation against the Swine Flu after all of that Yellow and Black.
5. Just because you learned to drive a tractor at 12 doesn’t impress those 200 cars behind your RED FORD DUALLY with "IURULES" as you poke up the LEFT Lane ON I 95 at Titusville. These are Highways, and Dante has a special place in hell for people who drive slowly in the PASSING LANE.
6. Craziness makes college football fun-like they guy in yellow body paint and crime scene tape for his outfit, but CUSTOM SWEAT SHIRTS WITH "GEORGIA TECH GIRLS ARE C*&%S" just doesn’t get it. I did want to ask if he was referring to the GT girls who designed the new Taurus, joined the military (IOWA, the only state in the US without a major Military installation) worked for NASA, won a Nobel Prize, etc., but just decided to let it pass.
7. OK enough rant about IU People. I missed out on getting closer to our people, but IF EVERY FOUR YEARS THE CANDIDATES FOR LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD HAVE TO COME TO IOWA AND BUY YOU BBQ IN ORDER TO GET ELECTED WE HAVE MORE PROBLEMS THAN I EVER IMAGINED.
KOOL AND THE GANG-STILL GETTING IT DONE!
If any Tech fan ever says something like, "I hope that Derrell Johnson-Koulianos,who missed that pass, tore up his ACL again so we can get him off the team", or "Whoever our Special Teams coach is should be fired and shot for calling that trick play" (AND YES I HEARD BOTH OF THOSE RIGHT BEHIND ME) I certainly will say something to MY FANS about 20 year old kids trying to play for the love of the game and coaches trying their best to add something you don’t see in the No Fun League. I thought only Clemson fans considered a 30.06 part of their fan package!
A worthwhile trip to Florida, let’s do it again!
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Jan 6, 2010 6:11 PM EST reply actions
So you were THE Georgia Tech fan in Miami
I’m sure the team just loved you representin’
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
No there were quite a few of us in Miami....
I ran into Yellow and Black in Coconut Grove (and showed them how to drink whisky clear, on my dime). I saw a very few at the Ritz @ Biscayne (come on folks, tractor hats off at the tables at the Ritz at least),,,,
Oh yeah, there were the dozen or so GT fans around me who stood and clapped for Derrell Johnson-Koulianos when he got up from his knee injury while the IOWAS looked for cheap beer and screamed at how bad the running backs were for not hitting the right holes. Looked like they hit some good holes from my perspective, and we were soft in the secondary. Again, mostly they were looking for someone to blame-someone they pay with their own tax money to represent their school and State.
As for hoping an injured player (for either team-they are doing it for the love of the game and hopefully the pride of the school) gets up, gets well, and gets back? Well, we call that Southern manners and SPORTSMANSHIP. We do that for everyone, even the U(sic)GA.
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Jan 6, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
That's funny...
because based on your posts. You’re just a good old fashioned horses ass.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
I'll assume you are a GRAD of IU and not just some pig sticker fan who couldn't make it out of 6th grade and couldn't get into IU, and chose IU because there is nothing else around to cheer for except the horses assess at the IOWA pre-election
So if you are a GRAD and a MAN, you can check your fine University’s honor roll of writers, figure out which one is buried in my hometown (OK its a she-that might help you out a little there).
Meet me at her grave on the anniversary of her death and YOU and I will settle this based on the GEORGIA LAW of “Fighting Words”. Look it up. You call my Grandmother a bad name and something bad happens to you, YOU take your chances in a Georgia court.
We’ve all ways to handle this:
You and me-2 enter 1 leaves
The wiseguys from Northern New Jersey show up at a concrete pour with $4000, a 7 foot box and no questions (Jimmy Hoffa is NOT at Giant Stadium)
We’ve got plenty of ponds with 100 year old gators and they just love the taste of Pig Stickers.
Personally attack me and expect that this will be much like “Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil”. “It’s like GONE WITH THE WIND ON MESCALINE and they are all armed”.
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Jan 7, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them."
From your own Marion Morrison – born Winterset, Iowa. If you look him up you might find he changed his name to John Wayne-3rd most popular American by many polls.
From Lee Corso I heard that THE BEST COLLEGE FOOTBALL FANS IN THE WORLD were the Cornhuskers. Taking an overmatched team into Lincoln, Corso called for a 4th and short and even when the Hoosiers missed the 1st down they got a standing O from the Lincoln crowd for the effort.
So I guess I was expecting something similar from the rest of the Big 10/11.
As my friends in Kansas, Nebraska, Illinois, and Indiana told me, IOWA is sort of like Appalachia without the mountains. Not many teeth and NO CLASS. I also learned that pig sticker is not an insult in IOWA, it is a JOB DESCRIPTION.
Your team was stellar. Stanzi looked like he’s never had as much as a hangnail based on his timing shots to the end zone. The Lines were outstanding, the coaches prepared the Hawkeyes to perfection.
Call my team what you will, it was all exposed on the field and the score represents the truest test of two teams.
Call me a “just a good old fashioned horses ass” and you’ve shown the true colors I saw ALL around me in the stadium, and I’m sure that all of the GOOD people in IOWA (except perhaps "Stoops My Ass) were watching on TV. The rest unfortunately were in Miami.
If a Nigerian with explosive in his underwear threatens to blow up the plane over Kansas, I’ll help him do it, just so I don’t ever have to say I’ve been to IOWA. (Got that one from Woody Hayes who wouldn’t even buy gas for a recruiting trip when in Michigan)
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Jan 7, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
okay
I take it back…you are just wierd. And astonishingly anecdotal. I doubt the average Tech student would get away with that, but you are not above trying. Let your freak flag fly.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
Great, I'm being flamed by a guy in a gorilla suit defending a guy who says he laughs because he farts!
Can y’all get me one of those “IOWA F*&%$ING City” T shirts.
Very classy. Not even funny like “Nashvegas-city of tail lights” or “Louisiana, at least we don’t suck as much as MIssissippi”
I’m sure Nile Clarke Kinnick, Jr. would be pleased with the level of idiocy from his own school-which he died defending in WWII.
I think the homeless here would love them (they wouldn’t understand running down your own city, but they’d love the creative writing from the Big 10/11’s best Liberal Arts School) Maybe they could all go to Africa with the "Buffalo Bills Super Bowl T Shirts.
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Jan 7, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
I'm looking for a point in your comments
Or even one coherent thought. And it just ain’t there. Fortunately, I know the difference between anecdote and evidence; thus, I don’t judge the entire Georgia Tech fanbase by the inane ramblings of one imbecile.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Milledgeville man, are you?
I hear there’s a lot of … Wise Blood in Milledgeville. Am I right? And like Iowa football, a place where The Violent Bear it Away?
Mr. Boh Knows ...
I do have to agree
that I’ve been less than impressed by the amount of class shown by the Iowa delegation. Living in the Midwest, the good thing is that its not completely representative of the area. Dont get me wrong, some of them have been really cool and awesome to yap with, but there’s always the select few that tend to ruin a team’s fan reputation.
I’m sure we have them, too.
Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...
Booing the opposing band
is pretty much a universal constant in the Big Ten. Don’t take that one personally. As for the others, you’re pretty much right on the money.
"Oh no, don't do that, don't do that. If you shoot him, you'll just make him mad." - The Waco Kid
Fandom is not UN work
so get off your fucking high horse.
You are after all the openly closeted gay guy (come out, come out wherever you are) who complains about anything that remotely homoerotic a bit too vigorously in your posts, a guy who grew up in the wealthiest suburb of Atlanta with your mosly white neighbors sequestered in their McMansions, who tried to argue that Iowa is a racist state with more confederate flags than Forsyth county.
Have you ever been to Germany Miss Chris? Flying the Nazi flag is a crime, so bigotry is underground there. Hint hint. You have tried to make cultural digs against Iowa from post one, and it’s tedious and revealing. Which is why we ceased to take you seriously about your second comment.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
SMA, grow up.
I assume you’re an adult or at least close to being an adult based on the content of a majority of your comments. I think you need you need to grow up when it comes to the game. You don’t have be so offended. Football is just a game. You are a guest commenter not the host. This is a Georgia Tech blog. We will bash our opponents and are allowed to put our own players/team on a pedestal. We are not casting stones at you personally. The stream of anger that comes from your steady flow of comments is sad. We are not out to get you.
Just chill out.
You are a sad, strange little man, and you have my pity.
Read your own poster's comments
with equal analytical aplomb or, as you have here, circle the wagons I guess. The cultural and intellectual arrogance of this blog is beyonnd the pale.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
if you don't like it, don't read it
game’s over. feel free to go back to your own blog now.
by Yellow Jackette on Jan 7, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Well, clearly, we should. But who will teach you how your offense works?
1. Must control tackles and get to second level to cut MLB. If this fails, dive fails. If dive fails, there is no triple option.
2. We must read DEs successfully, under assumption that DEs will play QB as they did in the wishbone days. If DE shifts assignment each play, unlike 1979, QB must be able to read DE’s mind, because the DE is now optioning the guy who is supposed to be doing the option. Every ACC team will do this next year. Quandary.
3. The rocket toss is our constraint play. If we lead with the rocket toss, say in the second half, it means we are in deep shit, because we can’t win with a constraint play. If we lead with it, it means we have given up on pushing the DTs off the ball, which means the dive has failed, which means the MLB is killing us because we can’t cut him, which means there is no triple option. Oh, oh, oh. I believe in systems analysis we call this “cascading failure” and our QB being “task saturated”. The rocket toss, therefore, is an act of charity by our coach, who is tired of watching our center and guard get stuffed, and our QB befuddled. Charity is rarely a useful attribute in football. Must stay away from charity, get stronger linemen, and do something about this DE optioning the optioner.
4. If corners ignore WRs, we are in deep shit, because we no longer have the numerical advantage at the LOS. Solution: must get a passing game. (Corollary: must learn to pass-protect.) There’s a reason why the ball is designed to be thrown.
5. If all-world RB runs backward into the endzone, perhaps he’s tired, sore, or scared. Play someone else if you see power RB running away from defense, backwards.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
I have too much love and respect for the guys that run this blog
To stoop to anywhere near your level and respond to this.
Good luck to you and Iowa in the future, SMA.
Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...
WOW
What a whiny, bitter little bitch you are.
by HeartOfHawkness on Jan 7, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
If you think Iowa fans are bad...
You should see the crap those ass-hats from Minnie-sota pull.
by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Jan 6, 2010 6:26 PM EST reply actions
I still remember Dodd....
Right about now is when someone should put up Coach Bobby Dodd’s quote about respecting a good play regardless of which side performed it, supporting your team win or lose and handling yourself with dignity and respect.
I appreciate the comment recognizing that wishing an injury on an opposing player is sad and pathetic. I too think that booing an opposing school’s band is bush league. As for good natured ribbing of the opposition, bring it on! But when some fans get personal, crude and lapse into psychotic behavior the rest of the fan base should move quickly to get them back in line.
Now about the game (I think that is what we were talking about). Iowa was the better team yet they were lucky to win. Tech was out of sinc on offense including a record number of penalties and self inflicted miscues. On another day Tech might just as easily have pulled this one out. However there should be a reward for making the fewest mistakes and Iowa deservedly won this one.
by Atlanta's original team on Jan 7, 2010 10:44 AM EST reply actions
Wow.
Can you help me out? Can you name a single match-up anywhere on the field that GT won? Can you help me understand which element of GT outplayed Iowa in any way? Can you identify which GT coach out-prepared his Iowa counterpart?
I can think of one. Your kicker kicked it deeper.
You guys understand, right, that by going rocket sweep in the 2nd half, Johnson was saying, “We can’t run the option against these guys. We’re double teaming their tackles and they’re still beating us to the ball and Dwyer is running for 1 ypc.” You understand what that means, right? No, I guess not.
Well, anyway, the book’s been written on how to stop Johnson’s offense, so he’ll have to re-engineer it now, unless ACC schools remain too far behind physically to copy Norm’s defensive scheme.
And really, nothing against a running QB, but get a passing game, for goodness sakes.
Whew, lucky for Iowa they got lucky in this game.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
It was the rabbit's feet
that Clayborn carried in his sock. Or perhaps the horseshoe the coaches nailed up in the locker room? Maybe the cloverleaf Stanzi found during pregame. Or the black cat that got loose in the GT hotel lobby. Maybe the broken mirror in CPJ’s hotel room. I am also happy to learn that TECH decided to use Morgan to eat up linemen in this game.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
I think they're confused by the score.
It wasn’t a numerical blowout, therefore it was a lucky win. It’s NFL-vs.-College coaching dynamics. NFL coaches and fans are used to 24-14 wins in which the other team abandons its nation-leading offense and sets a record (!) for utter offensive futility; they call them “decisive victories”. College fans expect a 25-point spread before anything is decisive. That’s my take. That, or they get a twisted pleasure from our hypersensitivity. Or, maybe, it’s our x/o brilliance — they’re learning something, instead of just repeating by rote (remember December?) “Paul Johnson is too smart to be defeated by farmboys.”
I imagine it’s the hypersensitivity thing that’s most entertaining for them. They know they got their asses kicked, and Morgan was sleep-walking, just like Miami did by Wiscy, and they like to see us protest their insincere dismissals. We walk right into it, every time.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
Really?
That’s your take from this game, that but for making mistakes GT would have won? Iowa dominated that game in every facet, and it was only our mistakes that allowed Tech to be in it at all. I’ll freely admit that I was worried in the 4th quarter that Iowa would end up losing the game and Tech would find a way to steal one they had absolutely no business even being in. That is not evidence of GT just being a few bad breaks from winning, it is evidence that Tech was being dominated on both sides of the ball but that Iowa, save for the first quarter, was failing to capitalize. Iowa wasn’t “lucky to win”, Tech was lucky they only lost by 10.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Wow! You're still trying to win the game... even though the score was in your favor.
So I began by saying Iowa was the better team but you are so insecure in your victory that you keep ranting as if you thought the game was never in doubt. My oh my. O.K., if it makes you feel better I will say it. Iowa played a perfect game, made no mistakes and was just holding the score down to keep it interesting in the third quarter.
And all Iowa fans are steeped in style and decorum.
by Atlanta's original team on Jan 7, 2010 12:46 PM EST reply actions
A fumble on the first possession on our side of the field, a horrible fake FG attempt from point blank range, and pick 6
all beg to differ. We played a remarkably flawed game, as we usually do. What we learned is that Iowa did not require an A+, A or even an A- game to win against GT. I consider it a B+ game. It was probably our third or fourth best of the season, with Penn State, Arizona and Iowa State being the competition.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
You've just made my point; thank you.
Tech won several games this year in which they were behind and being “run all over.” Playing a terribly flawed game was also their MO for much of the year. I am still not convinced that Clemson is not a better team yet Tech beat them twice. Tech also managed to manhandle teams this year that ate Miami’s lunch, which tells me that on a different day (and without having to play 3 games in 12 days) Tech might beat Miami. Just as easily they could have lost to Mississippi State, Clemson, Virginia Tech and FSU. Except for the dropping of an easy pass in the fourth quarter Tech might have marched down the field for a winning score against Georgia -the kind of comeback Tech fans had grown accustomed to. I suppose none of this means anything to you because you are rejoicing in a great Iowa win. My point was a nuanced one, one that took nothing away from Iowa. Over the years I have watched a lot of different teams and I have found myself saying that team X was the superior team but they almost threw the game away and were lucky to win.
At the risk of further cementing your belief that I am demented I will tell you that I thought Alabama was fortunate against Texas last night. As to who was the better team I will reserve judgment since Colt McCoy was not able to play. But given the fact that Alabama should have had that game settled by half time and allowed a second string freshman quarterback to bring their opponent back from the dead tells me that the game just as easily could have turned out differently. Would it have been a huge upset? Of course.
by Atlanta's original team on Jan 8, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
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