FTRS Rough Draft Blogpoll Week 4

by Winfield Featherston on Sep 28, 2009 7:00 AM EDT Comment 38 comments

The mid-major teams have cracked the Top 10. Three of them have arrived on the doorstep. Clearly, more things will make sense as the season progresses, but the potential discussions and arguments are just a few reasons as to why football is so much fun. Yall know the drill, cut it, critique it and let us know where we messed up.

Rank	Team	Delta

1	Florida
2	Alabama
3	Texas
4	Cincinnati	3
5	Virginia Tech	5
6	Boise State
7	LSU	2
8	TCU	5
9	Houston	7
10	Southern Cal	1
11	Ohio State	4
12	Kansas	9
13	Oklahoma	4
14	Miami (Florida)	5
15	Penn State	7
16	Georgia Tech	8
17	Georgia	5
18	Missouri	4
19	Oklahoma State
20	California	16
21	Brigham Young
22	Nebraska
23	Mississippi	11
24	Washington	4
25	Oregon
Last week's ballot

Dropped Out: Florida State (#18), Pittsburgh (#23), Clemson (#25).

Final draft ballot will be released Wednesday morning. UNC Post-game write-up later today.

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I'm going to wait for Winfield

Before I explain why we don’t deserve to be ranked any higher than 20. Mainly, it has to do with T.J. Yates and UNC in general being pretty terrible. It was a pretty win, but against a team that was lucky to survive UConn.

Also, I ranked Houston at 6, because I love bandwagons and Houston’s offense.

by EffinDane on Sep 28, 2009 8:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Houston in the top ten?

I realize they are undefeated because they have played one good team (your #19, OK St.) in their three games, but that is not enough to put them in the top ten. They moved up 7 spots for a 1 point win over a Texas Tech team that isn’t receiving votes? I think a lot of people are falling for the trap of believing that Houston beat a top 5 team in OK St. when we all now know that was an erroneous beginning of the season ranking.

by White and Goldrick on Sep 28, 2009 8:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think Texas Tech is a good team

But they are 2-2 with wins over North Dakota and Rice. Have them beat a decent opponent, and you’ll probably see them on the ballot.

by EffinDane on Sep 28, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also

HOW IS ALABAMA NOT RANKED #1?1 I’M SICK OF VOTING WITH YOU GUYS.

by EffinDane on Sep 28, 2009 9:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This discussion has already been made

Florida can and will donkey punch anyone right now. Until they lose, I’m keeping the champs and #15 at #1.

I'm about to write you a reality check. Or would you prefer the cold, hard cash of truth?

by BirdGT on Sep 28, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Alabama is good...

….but, as we’ve debated at length both soberly and drunkenly, they aint gonna beat UF.

If they beat UF in the SEC Champ game, I’ll owe ya a bottle of Makers…

Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...

by chrisinindy on Sep 28, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Go back and look at the document Dane.

The college football season is so fragile. It's like a glass ball being pushed around from stadium to stadium by a rhinoceros.

by Winfield Featherston on Sep 28, 2009 10:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

You mean the one

Where Bird is specifically keeping Bama in third in order to prevent them from receiving top honors? Playing dirty…

It’s a shame that I cannot bring myself to drop UF in order to promote my agenda…

by EffinDane on Sep 28, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm still having a hard time...

…drinking the Cincinnati kool-aid. I’m sure they’re good, but being the best team in the BE just seems like being the champs of my local rec-league softball league.

I agree with whiteandgoldrick, too. I’m still not buying what Houston is selling.

Other thoughts—

—Michigan should be ranked around 25th. Yes, they barely beat a bad IU team but they keep finding ways to win.
—You guys have us way too high.
—I dont get why UGA gets a 5 spot bump for barely beating ASU at home??? THWG they’re gonna get stomped this week…

It seems like you guys really penalize people for losing, i.e. Ole Miss and Cal. Granted, they both lost badly but 11 and 16 spots? Ouch…

Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...

by chrisinindy on Sep 28, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Case in point...

…JoePa loses to an unranked team and only drops 7 spots…I love Joe as much as the next guy but damn Cal at least lost to a team that you have ranked 25…

Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...

by chrisinindy on Sep 28, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

There's a big difference...

Penn State lost to Iowa, a now 4-win team, who many people had ranked pre-season. Ole Miss and Cal lost to teams that may not exactly suck, but aren’t that good either. South Carolina’s offense can’t seal the deal and Oregon is just… Oregon. Cal’s offense was explosive the first 3 games… but their wins weren’t exactly quality. So yes, Penn State was not penalized as heavily for losing to Iowa, who is shaping up to be a very solid team.

by EffinDane on Sep 28, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

OK, I get the logic, but...

….why not rank Iowa if you’re gonna buy em flowers and make out with em…

Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...

by chrisinindy on Sep 28, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I ranked Iowa 9th

and I got to second base.

by EffinDane on Sep 28, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Second base with Iowa

means you got her to bait your hook

Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...

by chrisinindy on Sep 28, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Shit

Just realized that the spreadsheet was not properly updated to take Iowa into account and rank them. They should be ranked 11th.

by EffinDane on Sep 28, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm thinkin

Offsetting penalties and replay the down on the whole ranking

Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...

by chrisinindy on Sep 28, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh snap! That will do it. Good thing it’s a rough draft.

The college football season is so fragile. It's like a glass ball being pushed around from stadium to stadium by a rhinoceros.

by Winfield Featherston on Sep 28, 2009 10:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

If you overlook their SNAFU again Northern Iowa.

The college football season is so fragile. It's like a glass ball being pushed around from stadium to stadium by a rhinoceros.

by Winfield Featherston on Sep 28, 2009 10:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah that was ugly

But I’m still overlooking it.

by EffinDane on Sep 28, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We've only played 4 games

With such a small data set, you’d expect new data to cause big changes. Things will be a lot less jumpy around week 8.

by EffinDane on Sep 28, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah...

I threw up my ballot and didn’t really go back and edit as much as I usually do. Hence our rather high ranking.

Cal and Ole Miss were exposed, hence their drop in mine. When the Bears beat Minnesota, their defense was shaky but I was blinded by Jahvid Best. Stop Best and you can beat Cal. That’s not top team material.

The college football season is so fragile. It's like a glass ball being pushed around from stadium to stadium by a rhinoceros.

by Winfield Featherston on Sep 28, 2009 10:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

He literally vomited his ballot.

by EffinDane on Sep 28, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I ranked Michigan 21

No one else ranked ‘em. I’m starting to see why the Big 10 voters don’t rank us high. It’s because they watch their games while our games are on. Hence, why we don’t rank them high because we’re watching our games when theirs are on.

I'm about to write you a reality check. Or would you prefer the cold, hard cash of truth?

by BirdGT on Sep 28, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe its due to the fact that I live in B10 country

which I try to diffuse as much as possible by not listening to their writers, but I do believe that Michigan deserves to be there

Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...

by chrisinindy on Sep 28, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s because the B10 sucks

The college football season is so fragile. It's like a glass ball being pushed around from stadium to stadium by a rhinoceros.

by Winfield Featherston on Sep 28, 2009 12:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

No argument here

but they seem to think they are the shizit. Plus it kills me how they think the Rose Bowl is still the NC game…

Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...

by chrisinindy on Sep 28, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least he didn't shat it

Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...

by chrisinindy on Sep 28, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Grrr

leave it to the old guy to f-up the thread

Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...

by chrisinindy on Sep 28, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s not a thread until you mess it up Chris haha!

The college football season is so fragile. It's like a glass ball being pushed around from stadium to stadium by a rhinoceros.

by Winfield Featherston on Sep 28, 2009 12:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

This is true

But I’m not even drinkin yet

Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...

by chrisinindy on Sep 28, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You have us

ranked way too high and the same with uga. I think that GT is 20 at best, and uga should not bump up 5 spots by barely beating an unranked ASU at home. Cal should have dropped out; they’re similar to us after the Miami game in that they really haven’t done anything to prove that they belong in the top 25. I also think that UF should not be number one until they definitively beat a decent team. I think Bama is a better #1 at this point. Ole Miss and Penn State falling to where they did is about right. Finally, I think that you should give USC[E] a little bit of love. I agree that they should have beaten NCST more severely than they did, but they played uga to the end and should have won, and soundly beat a then #4 Ole Miss team. I think 23-25 would appropriate for them.

by gth758y on Sep 28, 2009 5:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

NC State

to me, is on the radar for being ranked…they should’ve beat USC but dropped the game winner in the end zone

I'm about to write you a reality check. Or would you prefer the cold, hard cash of truth?

by BirdGT on Sep 28, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

F4H

had them ranked at 2nd in his ACC power rankings…which I thought was interesting

Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...

by chrisinindy on Sep 28, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Scratch that

3rd, behind us and VPI…but higher than Miami

Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...

by chrisinindy on Sep 28, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You and Dane have a little “Negative Nancy” in you. Who should move ahead of us in the poll? As you said georgia is too high, missouri is 4-0 against nobody, OK St. has played two ranked teams with one win and one loss while we have played three with two wins and a loss, Cal’s loss to Oregon and BYU’s loss to FSU were way worse than ours to Miami, Nebraska and Mississippi have no wins against strong opponents . . . and on, and on.

by White and Goldrick on Sep 28, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

For goodness's sakes, this was my ballot.

1 Alabama
2 Florida
3 Texas
4 Virginia Tech
5 Cincinnati
6 Houston
7 TCU
8 Boise State
9 Iowa
10 LSU
11 USC
12 Kansas
13 Ohio State
14 OKSU
15 uga
16 Penn State
17 Miami
18 BYU
19 Nebraska
20 Georgia Tech
21 Washington
22 Ole Miss
23 Oklahoma
24 South Carolina
25 Cal