Miami Game Recap
1. Miami beat us on the LOS all night. They had simple plays that were predictable based on the personnel presented to our defense yet we couldn't stop 'em. There was no pressure from the d line and our o line could not stop Miami's explosive d line. I think we'll see comparable defenses to Miami's in UNC, VT, and Georgie. However, these defenses will have much less time to prepare for us. UNC plays a tough ECU team this weekend limiting their prep time against our O. VT will face-off with a possible Atlantic contender in BC the week proceeding our game. Georgie will face Kentucky the Pushover while we get a week off before Thanksgiving.
2. Unlike most offenses that run through the QB, our offense runs through Jon Dwyer. If he is hurt or out of the game, then we can't do anything offensively. We lack the passing game to make big plays down field and need Dwyer to tie up the LB's/DL in order for any sort of play to occur on the edge (or between the tackles for that matter).
3. Our secondary was involved in over 50% of the tackles last night meaning our first and second tiers on defense were completely negated from every play. This may be a combination of defensive philosophy and personnel issues. Now, we know how important D-Rich, MJ, and Vance were last year. Our secondary is not bad. They are being isolated and picked apart because there literally is no pressure on the QB. As long as Derrick Morgan is double teamed every game, our pass rush is ZERO.
4. It's becoming more and more apparent that teams with decent defensive coordinators and 2 weeks to prepare can stop the triple option. Our passing game and other aspects of our offense must become weapons rather than liabilities SOON.
5. Miami had our game circled on the schedule. Their goal after last season was to end their "drought" against GT. I don't blame them. We did the same to Georgie last season.
Let me know your post game thoughts.
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Thoughts...
We can talk about flat offense, confused defense, Nesbitt being inaccurate with his passes, etc all day long but one thing really punched me in the gut the most about last night’s game.
We were uninspired. I know its not true, but it seemed as if we didnt care or didnt really want to be on the field.
I saw no hunger at all last night. I need my team to play like they’ve been on a deserted island for a month with no food, and if they win the game, steaks await everyone.
In preseason, we all expressed worry about our defense at one point or another. Last night, our worries came true. Derrick Morgan wasn’t even a factor. Our schemes didnt work, our talent didnt show, and I saw no ‘team defense’.
Yes, we were whooped in every respect of the game—and I think that began before we ever got on the field. If we dont start playing like we want to win, this could turn and become a long season.
Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...
I agree
I agree a little Chris but I’m also thinking that when you’re totally out-schemed, your players appear unmotivated when it may moreso be unprepared. Especially if you game plan on precise execution and that execution gets out of sync (ala Dwyer not being in the backfield), then things really go to Hell in a hand basket.
Secondly, all of our big plays are gone. We haven’t had a big play on offense since Allen’s 85 yarder. We were pretty reliant on the big play last year and it’s just not happening against sound D’s.
I'm about to write you a reality check. Or would you prefer the cold, hard cash of truth?
Well I was suprised at the total lack of blocking by the WRs and A-backs.
Allen is a great runner but has missed blocks on a number of occasions. There were times where we had men in the right position to break a big play, but missed blocks blew up the play in the backfield.
Two of our big runs were also negated by blocks in the back.
Muliple false starts also showed lack of focus. It wasn’t even a sell-out so noise wasn’t as big a factor as it has been in other games.
thoughts
We were def. outcoached when we were on defense. We needed to get pressure on Harris regardless if it took sending 10 guys to do it. We simply got no pressure and any QB with any remote accuracy can pick apart an NFL secondary with time to throw much less time to take a nap and then throw. Harris could have ran half the game clock on one play by just standing in the backfield because their O-line dominated our D-line. I’m also very disappointed about the lack of conditioning. Our lines were winded in the 1st half. We know that we are not as deep on the lines as other teams so we should be able to play twice as many plays as them at full speed. Our star D-lineman should not be taking himself out of the game for 3 straight plays in the 1st half.
On offense we didn’t move the ball that poorly in the second half I thought. Even without the D-train in there the ball was moving. We just never got to because their offense never came off the field. They punted what ONE time in a game……. However, I thought the play calling got a little shakey at points. With their D-line in the backfield we cant run as many misdirections which take time in the backfield. Every misdirection in the second half was blown up in the backfield. We needed quick hitters or to get the ball on pitches to the edge. But we still seemed to move it decently. Ashame thomas dropped what looked like was a for sure TD pass when he gave up on the play, but i dont think it would have changed game that much.
Just my thought I needed to rant about.
interesting points
TOP…
Miami – 33:45
GT – 26:25
That’s a pretty big disparity. Allowed Miami to run 10 more plays than us offensively.
What’s sad is how poorly we played the field position game because we really couldn’t stop them. Miami, in the first half, started on average on the UM 26.6 yard line while we started on the GT 35.8. Better field position didn’t help us at all.
I'm about to write you a reality check. Or would you prefer the cold, hard cash of truth?
Two missed field goals, and a roughing the passer on an interception clipped 13 more points off that beat down
That and Shannon being gentleman enough to run the ball the whole fourth quarter rather than have Harris throw two more tds.
I think Dwyer had like 10 yds on 7 carries, so yea if he stayed in the game he could have probably pounded out around 40 yds.
24 hour rule...
…and I just know that this will be my first Saturday at home this season and that ESPN Game Plan will be in full swing—
Which means the hammered, cross posting, thread-breaking mess that is Saturday on FTRS is sure to be in full swing by 12:05pm.
Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...
dude
I’m gonna try and engage in that this time but it won’t be ’til later. Gotta run a 5k Saturday morning in Cola. Hopefully, get back to watch some 3:30 games and a lot of night games.
I'm about to write you a reality check. Or would you prefer the cold, hard cash of truth?
My goal...
….is to at least make it to the night games. I’m building a couple of sets of Cornhole targets in the AM with my neighbor, so I at least have to stay semi-sober so the paintjob doesnt turn out looking like a south-Alabama pickup truck.
Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...
by chrisinindy on Sep 18, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Lemme rephrase that..
…my goal is to be able to still post by the night games. I’ll be on for the afternoon games fa shaw…
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by chrisinindy on Sep 18, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
More Excuses Please
anothermuther- I hate to correct you since we both know that was a complete destruction of a team that fans of the wreck figured to come in and dominate
Of course they had to talk trash and go overboard as usual but cant be found now
We cant forget about the blocked posts as well
That ACC player of the year and favorite this year was held to 5 carries for 7 yards he could of stayed out there all night and he wouldnt of rushed for 3 more yards before meeting # 57 face to face and knowing he better get out before he gets hurt really bad
Now he just comes of as a very soft player
by #57 Shut You Down on Sep 18, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions
can you blame us?
Dwyer ran for over 100 on you guys last year. We ran for 472 yards on the Canes in 2008. There was no reason leading up to this game for us to think that you had improved/we had digressed as much as last night indicated. I don’t think anyone’s making any excuses. The better, more prepared team won.
Key will be for GT to rebound and cheer on a VT victory over Miami ‘cause I don’t see any other ACC teams standing up to the Canes.
I'm about to write you a reality check. Or would you prefer the cold, hard cash of truth?
A Buzzsaw
is what GT just ran up on. Jacory Harris had enough time in the pocket to read the Chinese Newspaper!
It doesn’t mean GT is bad, they just ran up against a team that was more prepared and obviously more talented. If you guys want to win your bowl game you’ll have to beat teams that have time to prepare. That’s what it takes to win a nat’l title. So no more “they had time to prepare” excuses please.
Miami always has great athletes, but when those athletes can actually play football …you get a result like last night.
Also UM’s plays were far from simple and predictable, they were lining up O-linemen in the slot as WR’s! Lots of confusion was created for GT’s defense.
Anyway, I don’t blame you for thinking that you’d win like last year. Our defense didn’t look very good vs FSU.
by CanesAddiction on Sep 18, 2009 11:17 AM EDT reply actions
Yes I can blame you
Last year was last year
Your coaching staff looked lost and unprepared and never could adjust to what we did to them
All I heard coming into this game was how JH was over rated and not that good of a QB because F$U was pathetic and the wreck was going to take the game to him and his WRs
If your team is going to talk the talk then they better come out and show up
by #57 Shut You Down on Sep 18, 2009 11:47 AM EDT reply actions
funny. Aldarius Johnson didn’t even play
I find it hilarious that now that UM has been able to beat two higher ranked teams back to back suddenly that schedule isnt that tough after all. Are you kidding? Why can’t you just give credit where credit is due? UM isn’t over rated. They are right where they should be. Unranked coming into the season and beating two ranked teams. How can you hate on that? You and F$U were GIVEN higher rankings in preseason which are gone. We earned ours. That #1 recruiting class from last year is finally showing it. If you cant put ANY pressure on Harris he will pick you apart with our stable. The worst thing about last night is that our best WR Aldarius Johnson didn’t even play. I wonder if Lou and Mark May will keeping picking against the canes.
by clearwatercane on Sep 18, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions
If you want to start this last year crap
Last night was last night so STFU and go post your thoughts and shittalking on ur board or come post something semi productive on this board.
Clearwatercane just made a somewhat productive post and Im not sure where the give credit where credit is due is coming from. he must not of read the previous 9 posts but w.e you guys are good and I was impressed. It’ll be interesting to see if FSU is for real and if so you guys are getting the energy up for every game which is key to sustaining sucess over the length of the year. The canes are obviously either back on on the verge and Id hate to play them again this season
Bitter???
All you guys did was run your mouth about how pathetic we were and how dominate you were
You cant take the backlash from running your mouth then dont do it
Why run to our boards and run smack then whine when we come here to say something, that by the way isnt even as close to what we had to read from you guys
Just relax and calm down and take what you dealt
by #57 Shut You Down on Sep 18, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions
My take
Miami has 2 very good DT’s, definitely NFL players. GT’s offense hasn’t been figured out, they have just played 4 elite level DT’s in consecutive weeks. This is no scheme issue, it’s a talent issue. And it’s going to get worse next week against UNC. But who in the nation has tackles like that? Not many, you just happen to play them back to back to back.
GT looks to be in terrible shape. Fire the strength and conditioning coach.
GT has 2 very good defensive players and the rest are probably not even average. I really believe GT will need to score 30 points in every remaining game to win.
Really?
FSU I agree with your observations. Im not sure it will take 30 because although they are average defensive players they will be able to create turnovers against lesser QBs. I feel that we will pick at least 2 UNC passes next week. But im afraid ponder will not be a lesser quaterback and it will take 30 against your noles at least. Tyrod taylor on the other hand if our front 7 can stop the run…. which who knows if they is even possible…. we will have a field day against him and VT… but then again they could just run it down our throats.
I will be angry if my Noles don't score 40
I think that has to be the expectation against what I saw last night, unless FSU decides to hold the ball to keep their D off the field.
Sorry guys
Hey i dot want to rub it in at all but its been a hard few years for us.I mean you guys should send Shannon a thank you card for not running up the score like you knew we could have. He has class, unlike Urban Meyer.
by clearwatercane on Sep 18, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions
FSU gtfo
Oh god. FSU GTFO. Go complain about how over rated UM is.
by clearwatercane on Sep 18, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions
hmmm
yes I agree even tho if I was Shannon I would of put it in the endzone one more time for safety which I guess the two fieldgoals should have done. I think PJ And RS both have mutual respect for each other, And FSU made really good points about the game and added some good insight about the quality of DTs we played the past 2 weeks. so dont badger him for adding to the topic. And with your Urban Meyer rant Id like to add Les Myles to that debate for running the score up on us last year. I hope some1 does the same for him many times in the next few years.
I mean you guys put 41 on us when the game was over. Shannon didnt hit you back
by clearwatercane on Sep 18, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions
yea we hit you with 41 but we did it with 2nd and 3rd string guys running the ball. what do you expect us to do? start throwing the ball to run the clock out. if you guys ran the ball into the endzone at the end of the game theres not much anyone can say. but our defense was finally able to stop you after you ran it into the red zone twice and missed on your field goals.
but i see where you point comes from clear and like i said i feel the coaches do have respect for each other. i think they are both “good guys” i would classify mark richt in this class as well even tho THWG. Nick saban on the other hand………
Sorry
Winfield and I just got back into town. Not too much typing to do on the road.
Also, I do my best to not write anything about a game until 2 days later so I don’t jump the gun on anything. Miami is good, and I knew they would be. I picked us to lose to them and VT in the preseason. All credit goes to Shannon for an excellent job he has done with that program and for finally finding some coordinators who can get the job done.
Also
Miami fans are complete jackasses. The students are great – they were loud and could heckle with the best of them.
The rest of their fans are absolutely dispicable, however. I’ve never seen any group of people treat visitors so badly. uga fans are obnoxious, but Miami fans were nearly criminal. Seriously, they acted like fucking animals – that fan base does not deserve someone as respectable as Shannon as their head coach. No, that does not include every Miami fan… just a large majority of them.
Well there are 8,000 kids in the school and there were 40,000 at the game.
Take it up with the city. I think alot of it has to do with the last couple years. People saw their team implode and the OB get torn down. I think you guys got the worst of some bitter fans who finally have something to talk shit to someone about. 2001 was a long time ago.
by clearwatercane on Sep 19, 2009 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Act like you've won a game before...
…and you’ll get a lot more respect from ACC fans.
I’m not saying that you guys didn’t kick our asses, because you did, but have at least a little class. Example—the posting on the Miami blog that said that it would have been funny if Roddy Jones had been paralyzed when he landed on his head.
Oh, and another thing that would give you and your team more respect: 2 conference wins, even if they are over ranked teams, does not mean that your team is ‘back’. Yes, 2001 was a long time ago but if you think you are back to that level, you are grossly mistaken. Just like they would do us with the way we played Thursday night, UF and USC would stomp the shit out of your team.
Come limping back in late November and then we’ll talk about your program being ‘back’. Two wins does not a season make.
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Hahahaa I love the "insert random top five team" would kick your ass talk.
Well ill just say that it was 9-3 going into the 4th quarter at the swamp last year with a team that saw 18 true freshmen play. Howd that LSU game go?
You are trying to vilify an entire fan base because one guy made a joke about your running back landing on his head? Keep up the good work detective. You let me know if you find anything else in this crazy old internet. Heres how this works. We won. You lost. We talk shit. You take shit. Next year you get another chance to reverse that relationship. What do you think happened last year? You think just maybe some GT fans perhaps talked some shit about Miami? Let me introduce you to how life works. And as for Miami "being back"? We’re not. I’ve never said that. Any UM fan who says that wasn’t a fan during the 80’s 90’s or early 2000’s. We will never have another 2001 team. In my opinion the best college football team in history.
Ken Dorsey, Najeh Davenport, Clinton Portis, Jeremy Shockey, Andre Johnson, Bryant McKinnie, Willis McGahee, Antrel Rolle, Mike Rumph, Buck Ortega, DJ Williams, Ed Reed, Kelly Jennings, Sean Taylor, Frank Gore, Rocky McIntosh, Jonathan Vilma, Vernon Carey, Vince Wilfork, Kellen Winslow, Roscoe Parrish.
Soooo lemme get this straight...
….some unknown Wal-Mart night stocker with 5 kids by 4 different women and a hellacous child support payment is going to tell me how life works? How’s the quality of life in the most redneck suburb of the most redneck city in Florida? Hard to get across US19 every day to the bus stop?
I think what you are talking about is actually how college football works, not how life works. Believe me, I am well-versed on how college football works. When you lose, you get crap talked to you…I understand that and love it—its part of college football.
This is how college football REALLY works—-
Yes, I am villifying all UM fans because of what one guy posted because, well, that’s exactly how UM fans are. The reason your team doesnt get respect is because of it’s fans, reputation, and actions. You werent ranked in pre-season because you didnt deserve it. Period. You are, however, playing exactly how you should to fix that, in spite of your fans.
Until the team and the fans fix the ‘OOOO Imma gangsta attitude’, UM will ALWAYS take a few more knocks down in the rankings when you lose a game because people, in general, hate you and your team.
Trust me, its a hopeless cause for you because even if you win out….you won’t win the NC simply because of your attitude.
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Your words have cut me to the core.
Are you referring to Clearwater or Miami? I think there are far worse places in Florida than either of those. I didn’t know Georgia was known for its Nobel laureates. Also, I am the best night stocker at any wallmart south of the mason Dixon so I’m far from "unknown." I’m actually a 22 year old senior finishing up my Economics degree. The part about me having four different women? I’ll allow it. UM is a small private school with 8,000 rich white kids. I hardly think anyone considers the student body "gangsters." If you want to make this a racial thing than bring it up with city. I listen to rap in my car with the windows up.
UM will always be hated. We were on top for so long that’s what happens. We are the evil empire. Us against the world and we don’t give a shit about anyone else. So yea no one would like that. But UM isn’t going to change. Our motto is "IT’S ALL ABOUT THE U." What about that seems humble? We don’t care. We’re MIAMI. You’re georgia tech. Is anyone even alive from your national championship teams? I don’t really understand where you’re going with the whole "you were unranked in preseason because you didn’t deserve" rant. Yea. I know. But we beat the hell out of you. We either beat teams who didn’t deserve to be ranked that high or UM is just a lot better than those teams. You make the call almighty swami.
It was 1990
So yeah, I’m willing to bet there are plenty of those players still alive.
"This is America, if we can’t self-righteously look down on others and blame them for our faults, the commies win."-----Cormican on Bleeding Green Nation w/r/t fans overreacting to the Eagles signing of Michael Vick
The reason
The reason miami gets so much shit isnt because of how long it was on top u dumbass. the reason miami gets so much shit is because they are a bunch of thugs and will always probably be so. Did anyone see randy Shannons dumb ass doing the interviews. Hes a retard. His ebonics didnt even make sense. Hes so dumb that he cant even speak ebonics, much less the english language, that is how bad it was. Miami will recieve shit for the countless FAU FIU whoever the hell it was that they fight. they are just a bunch of guys straight from the jungle who have never been disiciplined because they can play football and that is their ticket in life. the idiotic miami fan who doesnt even attend miami and who will and has never attended miami is why i will hate miami. The U is just a bunch of bullshit and even if it was legit there is another program in FLA that would win that title. UF >um. ur us against the world is just a bullshit reason to be an asshole. clearwatercane u might be a rich white kid who goes to miami, but 3/4 ur fanbase isnt. is that your fault maybe not. but ur attitude doesnt give any reason to stop hating miami.
Jesus dude
I know it’s been a rough couple of days for you after the loss but it must be better than the few years you spent in an English class. If you’re going to insult someone for having horrible English it would be prudent to do some proofreading yourself.
"the idiotic miami fan who doesnt even attend miami and who will and has never attended miami is why i will hate miami."
That "sentence" actually hurt me. I thought this was America. There’s a kid in my class from Nam, who sounds like he learned English reading bazooka joe comics, who can put better sentences together than that.
Brandon Meriweather stomped the shit out of some guy in the brawl and he still got drafted 24th overall by Bill Belichick. And you know the Pats have a horrible reputation of trouble makers. That’s Miami bitch. It doesn’t matter. Our "thugs" are on every team in the NFL. We have 41 active players in the NFL. Bowden and Meyer are dirty and crooked as all hell but you’re giving Randy shit for sounding too black? Randy punishes kids over nothing. If a player fails to maintain a 2.5 grade-point average, he must live on campus. If Shannon’s phone rings after midnight about any player, that player doesn’t play the next game. Hats may not be worn inside the football building or at team meals. He famously moved Sean Taylor to the second team defense once for coming late to a meeting.
And as for the attitude? You just wouldn’t understand. I don’t care if you hate Miami. I want you to hate us. You’re just the Washington Generals. We’re Miami. You’re georgia tech.
by clearwatercane on Sep 19, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
luckily so cuz i would sure as shit hate myself if i was a miami fan. and yes im complaining about shannon not being able to speak english and doesnt know how to articulate. and that “sentence” you were talking about is a sentence. It has a subject and a predicate dipship so u go take english class u moron. and yes miami players are thugs regardless if they play in the nfl. the number of thugs in the nfl barely trails the number in the nba so dont start me on that shit.
alright guys
Its getting to the point where you are embarrassing both fan bases.















