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Main Event: Dwyer v. Spiller


As the ACC's only fringe Heisman hopefuls, Jon "D-Train" Dwyer and CJ Spiller are arguably the best two returning players in the ACC. A look at their numbers reveals their primary differences in style. Dwyer is the fullback in Paul Johnson's run, run, and run some more offense while Spiller is the speed back and primary returner for Clemson's fire-another-offensive-coordinator-offense:

Obviously, the stats are affected by schedules, coaching staff changes midseason, injuries, etc.. but diving deeper, I've pulled out Dwyer/Spiller's offensive touches broken down by end result. I didn't factor in returns 'cause Dwyer isn't a return man, which gives Spiller a huge advantage in Heisman voting:
Note: Dwyer is the yellow bars while Spiller is the orange bars.

What the charts tell me is that Dwyer is running up the middle a lot (DUH) and Spiller is taking sweeps, tosses, etc. to the outside. Dwyer will almost always gain yardage and if the safeties get burned he will score. Spiller will eventually get forced out of bounds but his plays are more likely not to yield positive yardage. I think the two backs are an excellent example of the different styles of RB play.

Questions for Discussion:
1. Could Dwyer/Spiller fit in the other's offense?
2. Who will have the more successful year?
3. Who has a shot at ACC POY, national position award, or Heisman?
4. Who could eat more hot dogs?


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Ok, I'll try thos 4 questions...

1) I think they could both fit equally as well in each others offense. However, I think Spiller would be an A back at GT. He doesn’t have the size to be a B back and not get banged up bumping around with inside LBs.

2) Dwyer, mainly because the other skill positions around him are also very good. GT’s line is a question mark, but run blocking is always easier to teach then pass blocking.

3) ACC POY=Both have a shot. Nat position awards and Heisman=only Spiller. Like Graham Harrell last year, even if Dwyer ran for 2000 yards it would be argued that it is a benefit of the scheme. It’s not fair, but it would be enough to take away his chance at those awards.

4) Dwyer. It wouldn’t be close…lol

I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.

Elayne Boosler

by NaGaNole on Jul 23, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

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I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.

Elayne Boosler

by NaGaNole on Jul 23, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I want to disagree with you on the Heisman piece, but you’re probably right. I might go dig up some past winners and see what type of systems they were a part of to see if that argument has legs to stand on. Ya know, the thought that if Dwyer can’t win because he’s from an “option” offense, then maybe they should take it away from historical winners who were also from a run-oriented offense. I don’t think I can even successfully argue that, but I’ll give it a shot, if for no other reason than for our boy D-Train.

by Jesse28 on Jul 23, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

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