Tuesday Mornin' Hatin' on uga with Winfield & Dane
by BirdGT on Nov 24, 2009 8:00 AM EST
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I didn't really feel like analyzing Georgia Tech's ability to achieve first downs, the air density of the respective gamedays affecting the trajectory of Josh Nesbitt's passing angles, or the decibel level of the opposing crowd in relation to our defense's performance. I wanted to delve into the psyche of two Tech fans and their entry into the rivalry known as Clean, Old-Fashioned Hate. I asked them a sequence of six questions. They became so enraged by the fifth question that they didn't even answer it. Dane smashed his face through his computer monitor. Winfield, in extreme blood lust, went out to start a bar fight, got lost on the way to the bar, bought some chocolate, and calmed his nerves by consuming A LOT of calories. Here are the questions and the answers Winfield and Dane provided:
1. When was the Tech-Georgie rivalry firmly ingrained in your conscience? What game or event set the tone for your rivalry experience?
Dane: 2005. My red-and-black-loving (un-American... the Nazi's wore red and black) sister made me stick around after the game, in order to listen to the Redcoats (un-American) play that damn Union marching song (anti-Southern). Made me take a picture of her and that stupid Hairy Dawg mascot. We finally get to leave out of the south gate, while the band is leaving too. We are slowly walking through the crowd when a sousaphoner puts his hand to my chest in order to stop my progress and goes "DUDE, DONT BREAK OUR RANK" or something bandly like that. I grab the guy's wrist, push him back, and let the verbal assault begin. I was enraged, and told him and his mother that they could get out of our stadium and go straight to Hell among a few other things.
I was a georgia fan before coming to the glorious Institute, and up until that point I didn't quite get it. Sure, I had talked some smack on behalf of the Jackets but until then I just wasn't hardcore about hating georgia. Maybe I should thank that fat bastard for opening his mouth - but I really wish I would have just knocked his teeth into the back of his throat and faded away into my dorm room. THWG.
Winfield: 1997. Georgia 27 Tech 24. Living outside of the Southeast sucks when your team is on regional TV. My dad was stationed in Dayton, Ohio and we were in Cleveland with family for Thanksgiving. It was the first time I vividly remember it was the first time I saw my dad upset over a football game. That is my earlier memory of Georgia Tech vs. georgie. The next year, 1998, was a great year. Yet again, back in Cleveland. We had no TV again (had to watch other games just for highlights!) The clip of Luke Manget hitting that field goal made my entire family erupt in jubilee! And the my extended family just staring in confused wonder. Same thing happened in 2008, only I had tears in my eyes.
2. Where does beating Georgie rank amongst the following: Winning a Division Title, Winning an ACC Title, Winning the National Title? Explain.
Dane: Beating georgia means nothing, but losing to them means everything. Mutt fans like beating Tech way more than we like beating them. I know that sounds crazy - but that's really all they had, and now it's gone. I heard "seven" more times last season than any other word, and every georgia fan I met made it a point to tell me that they owned us. No, you owned Chan Gailey. And now he's gone. And now you are boned. Based on our history, conference (even ACC) and national titles go hand-in-hand with beating the mongrels. In the past week there has been more talk about playing Clemson than georgia.
Winfield: Well, you can't win the MNC if you don't beat georgie, so those go together. Winning only a division title? Pssh beat georgie. Winning the conference doesn't mean anything if you lose to an SEC team because of that national perception. Then you have to think of the RIDICULOUS scenario where you have an absymal season. Beating georgie makes the sun shine, the women disrobe, and the waterfalls flow.
3. If the Georgia Bulldogs were an ice cream flavor, what flavor would they be?
Dane: Initially, I considered posting a link to 2 Girls 1 Cup. However, we like blogging for SB Natoin, so I decided against it.
If you unplugged an ice cream machine and left the reservoir full for two weeks, then turned it back on and served what was inside - that would be their flavor.
Winfield: I don't like ice cream. I don't like georgie.
4. A lot of innocent bystanders always ask the following, "Why do you always shout 'To Hell With Georgia!'? That's the state you live in, silly!" Define the phrase for commonfolk and what it means to you.
Dane: I haven't heard the whole "hurr hurr you are from that state" as much as the "WTF you aren't even playing them today!" "To Hell with georgia!" is a greeting, a cheer, a toast, and a parting phrase (I'd go as far as to call it a benediction). It doesn't matter who we are playing, it's always THWG.
Winfield: Damn the rival! And ditto Dane who got to the response before I did.
5. Why is this rivalry better than made for tv rivalries like the World's Largest Cock-fest or the Red River Donkey Punch?
Dane: We live with these people. We have to see them everyday at Chick-fil-a (while they push around the mop bucket and salivate over the smell of our food). They get in our way at the beer aisle and the liquor store. Sometimes they work with us. Living in such close quarters with these animals makes the rivalry that much more meaningful.
Winfield: I've had this discussion with Bird quite a few times. In-State rivalries are true rivalries because 364 days out of the year I see these people. In Georgia, I hear that bark and it makes me vomit.
That's it. Share your stories in the comments. Answer the questions freely. Don't be embarrassed if you took on an entire uga fraternity and WON. Be embarrassed for them. Here's a video I found on facebook:
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Crazy Alum
A bit off topic, but one of the guys I roomed with long ago is going to the ACC championship. He now lives in SC so has declared that he is OK with whichever team wins. Seems like he’s lost his mind to me but it got me thinking about a COFH scale (football edition – most hated have higher score).
Adjustments/Additions/Comments are welcome.
11 – Georgie
9 – Notre Dame
8 – Clemson, VT
7 – Miami
6 – UVa, Auburn
5 – MD, FSU
4 – BC
3 – Wake
2 – NC
1 – Duke
PS – So should I b*tch-slap this loyalty-splitting alum next time I see him?
I'd say close
I’d put Auburn with Clemson and VT just because of historical reasons. FSU, UVA, and Miami are all on a level together. The FSU game is always war. UVA has the curse (that was broken) but it’s still a team that always has our number. Miami because they’re assholes.
BC, Wake, UNC, and Duke have little to no tradition with Tech other than we’ve played Duke 5 million times and Duke hired Spurrier when we probably should’ve.
This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere. Explain again how sheep's bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.
If he is okay with Clemson beating GT for the ACC Championship
I say bitch slap him immediately. He must be one of those Tech geeks who didn’t even know GT has sports.
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Startin' to Hate
1976.
Bit of background. My uncle and both cousins went to UGAg. Growing up in Jacksonville I went with them to the FL/GA game every year – always decked out in orange and blue Gator gear, awash in a see of red as we used my uncle’s season tix.
Gators going for 1st SEC title, ranked 10th. Jump out to 27-13 halftime lead. Mutts score 28 unanswered in 2nd half to win. The drunken vitriol spewed on this teenage Gator fan by those uncivilized animals sealed my hate for life.
Couple of years later I told the relatives I was going to Tech. Was told I’d have to enter their house through the back door from now on (so as not to disturb the Herschel Walker shrine and pictures of UGA II, III (whatever number they were on then)).
Been a long time since it felt like the tide may have turned to the Jackets and I hope we get to enjoy it for many years.
My hate started in 1983...as a freshman
Best memory…winning in Athens when little RB Jerry Mays went off! I took home a piece of hedge!
Beating them last year was the best victory in any sport, at any level for me in seven years!
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In 2006, after that stupid unblown call
I was steaming mad. Some family had decided it was a smart idea to sit in the student section of that game. (bad idea). Ensuing kickoff it was a 40 yard or so return. I turned around and yelled in the guy’s face pretty loud and pretty hard. The entire family (mother and 2 daughters) proceeded to cry. Yep, I made a family cry in Athens. Do I regret it looking back? Not really. They shouldn’t have sat with us!
The college football season is so fragile. It's like a glass ball being pushed around from stadium to stadium by a rhinoceros.
by Winfield Featherston on Nov 24, 2009 11:28 AM EST reply actions
To Hell With Georgia....forever
I’m going to tell a story that no one knows other than my closest family…
In 1996 I was a police officer for the University of Georgia. Yea, I know…me…working for the man at UGA. I did it for the Olympic experience (still glad I did), but personally it was very hard to work for such a piece of crap place.
Anyway, I stayed there for a few months after the Olympics so that I could go through one football season to experience it. In 1996 we lost to UGA after we missed a kick wide left as time expired. I don’t remember the kicker or the final score, and I don’t have time to research it right now, but it was a horrible experience. I was behind the goalpost, on the field, and saw it going left as soon as he kicked it. Anyway, my job was to secure the Pup’s locker room after the game—and I did, just in time to hear Vince Fooley come in and address the team. He said horrible, horrible things about Tech. About how they’d (Tech) been beaten out of town and how this was the first senior class in a long time that had not lost to the ‘Goddam team from Atlanta’ (exact quote) during their time at the school. Dooley also said ‘sonsabitches’ about 17 times during his speech, speaking about Tech. I also saw how badly fans treated Tech after the game, throwing whiskey bottles and beer cans at the athletes and the bus as it drove off campus.
I was raised in a Tech family. I had been accepted at Tech when I graduated in 1990 but changed my major to Criminal Justice at the last minute and wound up not going to Tech, unfortunately. So watching Idiot Dooley talk about my team this way, especially in his capacity at the time, only reinforced my hatred of all things UGA.
UGA people are reaping what they’ve sown this year. I only hope that it continues for many years to come.
Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...
seeds of hatred
Admittedly, I, like Dane, am a tech convert. I grew up cheering for my dad’s alma mater, Northwestern(which is why I may be more adept at handling the disappointments that usually befall GT athletics, because cheering for the wildcats is a rough way to go through life). Though I wasn’t a Tech fan, I always recognized the stupidity of georgie fans and the classlessness of their football team by the way they carried themselves and still carry themselves on the field and I would always turn on some clean, old-fashioned hate in november to cheer on the jackets.
The moment I would say the fire sparked inside me and I passed the point of no return as a straight-up hater was in 2007 in the cocktail party. When they did that absolutely absurd dance in the endzone after the touchdown, were thrown for TWO unsportsmanlike penalties, made absolute asses out of themselves, completely undermined the integrity of the game, and then admitted that their COACH had planned this all along, I realized that this was the epitome of what georgie football is all about. It’s great to see them lose because they don’t play the game right, they are undisciplined, they deliver more cheap shots and taunts after the whistle than any team I have ever seen(which is why they had it coming with Spikes), and their coach is an asshole who poses as a nice guy on truck commercials. It’s for all the times that I can honestly say that I would be embarassed if I were a uga fan when their team and coach repeatedly show that they care more about themselves and their appearance as badasses on t.v. than about actually winning football games. And it seems it’s finally caught up with them.
THWG
honorable mention: dancing on the vandy star in 2006 after a last second victory. WTF, who does that?
started about...
almost 18 years ago!!!! i just grew up hating ugay!
by The_GT_LineageX11 on Nov 24, 2009 12:22 PM EST reply actions
If UGA were an ice cream flavor, they'd be...
Pralines and Dick
Drake is on board
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This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere. Explain again how sheep's bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.
1. As soon as collegiate camouflage apparel became available (circa 1990?). I grew up a Tech fan but semi-adopted Florida in middle/high school just because I was guaranteed one week a year that I could walk around and try to make people cry.
2. I agree with everything Winfield said. 2006 blew. Had an amazing year (2 losses to Notre Dame and Clemson) and then…we needn’t be reminded. Entire year seemed like a waste.
3. Kristie Alley’s breast milk with uga’s fecal matter chopped up into fine pieces and topped with the frayed bits of red car flags that have flown since 1980.
4. Dane said it all. If we had a bobsled team I’d hope they’d use this phrase as their push off (similar to the “Eis, Zwoi, Drü” of the Swiss team in Cool Runnings…)
5. Because it’s really awkward when the bathroom attendant at Peachtree Tavern is talking to you about his degree from UGA and you can’t think of anything to say.
Are you a LION or a GAZELLE?
Hahaha that may be the funniest thing I’ve ever read!!!
Maker's Mark--nectar of the gods...
by chrisinindy on Nov 24, 2009 6:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hahaha
Your response to question #5 should be one of those motivational posters or priceless bits.
Corey Zickefoose: I think they should still be able to play football, regardless. Tennessee is my place. You know, it's my football team.
Reporter: Even after they put a gun in your face, you say let them play football?
Corey Zickefoose: Yeah. It's Tennessee. That's the way it is sometimes.
Welcome to the SEC!
1978
1. When was the Tech-Georgie rivalry firmly ingrained in your conscience? What game or event set the tone for your rivalry experience?
Both of my parents went to Georgia. I was born in Athens. My birth announcement, in fact, appeared on the sports page of the Banner-Herald. As you might expect, I grew up a Georgia fan.
My father had season tickets, and he took me, my brother, and my mother to a couple of games every year, at least after we were what he considered to be old enough. Those games were the opener and homecoming. The rest of the time he went with his buds.
I grew up in West Central Georgia, where everybody during that period was an Auburn fan, due to proximity, Pat Sullivan, and “punt, Bama, punt”. It was lonely being a Georgia fan.
This all peaked, I guess, with the Sugar Bowl, in which Pittsburgh beat the shit out of Georgia. That was a painful thing.
Then I enrolled at the Institute in 1978. I joined the band, and I immediately became a Tech fan. Being a student, being in the band, and going to every game was a huge change. I had thought I was a Georgia fan. Now I knew I was a Tech fan.
I didn’t truly hate Georgia, though, until that 1978 game, which a former Jonesboro quarterback held Eddie Lee’s foot while he was rolled by two other bulldogs. Eddie Lee’s career at Tech was done, our offense was finished, and Fuck Belew got lucky. Georgia won both the game and my hatred for life.
It didn’t help that Herschel then showed up in Athens, and all those Auburn fans I grew up with were suddenly Georgia fans. Everybody in the state decided to jump on that bandwagon. I had suffered through years of mediocre Vince Dooley teams, and magically they go undefeated and win the national championship.
We lost six in a row to Georgia, and the hate grew stronger each year. I have no doubt that the 1984 game will always be my favorite of the series.
2. Where does beating Georgie rank amongst the following: Winning a Division Title, Winning an ACC Title, Winning the National Title? Explain.
If we don’t beat Georgia, the season is tainted, so beating Georgia is the top priority. The other things are nice, but, really, ten years from now all that will count is how many times we’ve beaten Georgia lately.
3. If the Georgia Bulldogs were an ice cream flavor, what flavor would they be?
Pickled pigs feet and Herschel sweat.
4. A lot of innocent bystanders always ask the following, “Why do you always shout ‘To Hell With Georgia!’? That’s the state you live in, silly!” Define the phrase for commonfolk and what it means to you.
I was walking down the tailgate street in Nashville and heard some people singing “Ramblin’ Wreck”. When we finished I shouted “What’s the good word?” If the Vanderbilt people didn’t understand why dozens of Tech fans shouted “To hell with Georgia!” in response, well, that’s their problem.
5. Why is this rivalry better than made for tv rivalries like the World’s Largest Cock-fest or the Red River Donkey Punch?
I went to Tech. One of my brothers went to Tech. His wife went to Tech. One of my uncles went to Tech, his brother is a big Tech fan, and their father, my maternal grandfather, was a huge Tech fan. My fraternal grandfather went to Tech.
My parents and my other brother went to Georgia. There are friends of this extended family that went to Georgia.
We are, for the most part, a very vic
CraigT
you are a very very good man. You rank high among the converts. God Bless You
The college football season is so fragile. It's like a glass ball being pushed around from stadium to stadium by a rhinoceros.
by Winfield Featherston on Nov 25, 2009 2:56 AM EST up reply actions
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